9.3x62(232~292gr) is larger than .338(8.6x70 and 200~300gr) so recoil I'd say in the same ballpark with the .338 being a bit softer.

"Allah hu AKBAR!"

Would've been funnier if there had been blood.:up::haha:

Friend of mine has an M1...i witnessed him shoot a deer with it in November. Very very nice gun...he just hasn't let me take it for a spin yet. :doh:

My family has an AK.... :hmmm: No special license required. Unless you're in California maybe...they run about 500$ here and they're very very fun to shoot.

Thanks for the constructive input.

In the end I have decided to get the .300 win magnum and then maybe get a heavier .338 Lapua at some later point if I still need better range performance.

Captain obvious says that I live in Moscow, Russia.

And that's fine. :yeah: I know exactly nothing about your gun legislation over there. I'll admit it.

it's something between yours and ours :03:

Well it is fairly simple, ie:
- any reasonable man (who does not suffer from mental issues and does not have a criminal record) could own a defence fire arm (ie a PM with rubber bullets).
- any reasonable man with hunting license can arm a smooth, full length barrel, manually reloaded or semi auto shotgun (no saw offs, as they can be used as concealed weapons).
- after some period (forgot what it was) of good usage that person could procure a full length, manually reloaded or semi auto rifle.

You also need to register your firearm, have a proper storing location for it (an armoury or safe), store ammo separately and so on and so forth. You are also not allowed to have full metal jacket munitions I think.

Automatic or what could be viewed as combat firearms are allowed for specially licensed security companies or the PMCs.

Interesting Over here in the land of the "free" we can purchase and (legally) own a full automatic firearm only if we pass an extensive FBI background check that takes several months and pay several hundred dollars in tax. The state government in question may also require a permit/tax for possession as well.

In addition the owner must surrender his 4th amendment right to privacy by giving the government standing permission to enter his home without a warrant in order to check that the firearm is still in his possession and is stored correctly. There are also restrictions on crossing state lines and a raft of other regulations and requirements to comply with. In short as much a pain in the posterior as they can make it without outright banning ownership.

We sort of have this for the hunting fire arms (though the measures are similar they are not as thorough), the combat ones are only permitted as service arms for the security companies and PMCs, requiring special license (for the company) and special training/certification for the user.

Thus it makes having a combat fire arm technically possible in Russia, but very, very difficult.

An Armalite AR30A1 will set you back about $1900. While I personally prefer an A Square over a Lapua, not many agree with me. You can get a .338 Lapua for as low as around $1200, but I wouldn't suggest it. If you have the means, a Barret 13127 is really the "choice" easily available.

Your other "snipe" choice is a Dragunov - and just because its design is Russian too many westerners dismiss it outright. The commercially available "Tiger" is a sweet rifle, and are not overly expensive.

I love my M1 Carbine, but its not the most powerful in stopping power. Good accuracy at range and it may not drop every target but it sure as heck will still hurt - a LOT!

Best advice I can give is if possible, go to a local range or three that has a selection of long guns and try out a few. Find what "fits" you best. The same applies to handguns. Always try to get a few rounds fired before you spend money on something that looks great on paper but just doesn't sit quite right with you.