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kraznyi_oktjabr 02-20-14 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2176921)
Have you ever considered a gas pistol if that is legal in Finland? They are non lethal, look sometimes like the real thing and a dose of tear gas and/or pepper should render an attacker unable to strike at you effectively.:cool:

In theory I could, in practice no. I would have to prove the need for it and its kinda difficult unless you are vartija (lit. guard, stricly just that) or järjestyksenvalvoja (essentially private security officer, slightly wider authority than vartija has). Sooo... get yourself beated up and come back again... :nope:

Schroeder 02-20-14 06:44 PM

I thought we had strict laws for them...:doh:
Over here you need a concealed carry permit for them.:88)

TFatseas 02-20-14 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2176935)
Well, since were naming carry pieces, I currently carry a Smith and Wesson M&P Shield in 9mm with the factor sights replaced with Ameriglo Tritium I dot pro. Before I was able to actually find a shield in one of my local gun shops, I was carrying my Beretta M9A1 as my concealed carry. Yes it is possible without too much printing with the right IWB holster, but heavy after awhile. It has since been relegated to it's more proper place as the home defense piece.

I do agree that after carrying for awhile, it really isn't a big deal. Though I do think the responsibility that comes with carrying is kinda big. If that makes any sense without coming across as contradictory. :88) (probably does. :shifty: )

Obviously, I'm speaking more to the idea that some make a big deal out of carrying a weapon. I don't.

I wish more would exercise that right, as long as it is done safely and smartly.

kraznyi_oktjabr 02-20-14 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2176951)
I thought we had strict laws for them...:doh:
Over here you need a concealed carry permit for them.:88)

We don't have concealed carry permits in sense you and Americans have. Here you can carry your firearm freely as long as it:
a) is within its case
b) is unloaded :doh:
c) you have good reason for transporting (such as going to hunt or to firing range)
Self-defence doesn't count for c) as we are apparently expected to trust that police can protect us even when response time is sometimes counted in hours not minutes. :nope:

This is partly an kneejerk reaction to school shootings (Jokela & Kauhajoki) so now situation is essentially going towards point where two groups have firearms or weapons of any kind:
a) those who have special permit such police and certain security officers (such as money van guards, not regular vartija or järjestyksenvalvoja)
b) those who don't bother their minds with "silly government regulations" such as organized crime groups
:/\\!!

Schroeder 02-20-14 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr (Post 2176960)
We don't have concealed carry permits in sense you and Americans have.

Well, our concealed carrying permit only includes gas pistols, not live firearms. You can't carry a gun with you unless you are with law enforcement, military or have a hunter's license (requires plenty of training and some tests and only allows unloaded open carrying).

TheDarkWraith 02-20-14 08:03 PM

Depends on where I'm heading to as to which weapon I carry:
- S&W M&P 45 for dangerous areas
- H&K P30L for just about everything else
- S&W M&P 22 for special trips

Ducimus 02-20-14 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TFatseas (Post 2176956)
Obviously, I'm speaking more to the idea that some make a big deal out of carrying a weapon. I don't.

I wish more would exercise that right, as long as it is done safely and smartly.

I agree. Though I do think that if one chooses to carry, they have an obligation to themselves and their fellow citizens to not only carry safely and smartly, but also an obligation to have the ability to hit what their aiming at as well. To reiterate, i think carrying is not a big deal, but making the decision to carry is because i think it both a responsibility and a commitment. But that's just me, and my anal nature about certain things. If i don't get good shot groupings at the range, i''m really hard on myself.

TheDarkWraith 02-20-14 08:07 PM

When I have to draw my sidearm my hope is that this will act as the deterrent and stop whatever is happening. Try to avoid pulling that trigger unless you absolutely have to :yep:

swamprat69er 02-20-14 08:48 PM

It's only cops and other crooks are allowed to carry sidearms in Canada.

That being said, I imagine that IF i tried hard enough I could probably get the necessary permits to own one, but in order to transport it to the range I would need a permit for that, too. Not worth the hassle in my eyes.

Tchocky 02-20-14 08:53 PM

Well it seems every joke I came here to make has been taken care of.

Good job everyone :)

RickC Sniper 02-20-14 09:02 PM

I cannot handle a handgun (disability) but if I could, I would be carrying one.

My son has been carrying concealed for over 10 years.

Aktungbby 02-20-14 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2176993)
Good job everyone :)

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/he...y-emoticon.gif:lurk::sign_yeah:

fireftr18 02-20-14 09:52 PM

Nice post. Made a good discussion. I'm choosing to not say either way if my wife, my son, or I carry or not. As Ducimus wrote, the idea is that it's concealed, so no one knows if you carry or not.

Stealhead 02-20-14 09:55 PM

In my humble opinion everyone carries a weapon 24/7.It is right on top of your head between your ears.

Sometimes I do carry a Kimber Super Carry Ultra.

Stuff happens that is true but I am a firm believer that just having good situational awareness is a useful "tool" that can keep you out of trouble or make you
less likely to be the victim of a crime.Now I am not talking about spending every second sitting in fear.I mean simply paying attention to your surroundings when you are doing this
the the kind of people that are looking for an easy target are looking and 99% of the time they will avoid you.

Father Goose 02-20-14 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2177009)
In my humble opinion everyone carries a weapon 24/7.It is right on top of your head between your ears.

Sometimes I do carry a Kimber Super Carry Ultra.

Stuff happens that is true but I am a firm believer that just having good situational awareness is a useful "tool" that can keep you out of trouble or make you
less likely to be the victim of a crime.Now I am not talking about spending every second sitting in fear.I mean simply paying attention to your surroundings when you are doing this
the the kind of people that are looking for an easy target are looking and 99% of the time they will avoid you.

I agree. +1
I carry a Sig Sauer P229 SAS 357.
I also have a Benelli M4 Tactical shotgun in my hut to "persuade" the savages on the island to go away.


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