I will never understand why so many give the government the benefit of the doubt, especially this administration as it has shown that it can not be trusted.ABC news reported about the two Marine Generals in Afghanistan being relieved, their reason for doing so was vague and suspect.Stanley McChrystal did nothing wrong but made off the record comments talking about how the admin had no clue, and they don't.Fired he was, and promptly.Why? Not for failure to perform his duty, simply because he bruised very fragile egos in the admin.

David Petraeus? Sounds like admin put the NSA on him.Hacking of emails etc? Wonder why? Perhaps he had the balls to stand up to obama and his people.They can't just fire them, so they search for a way to discredit him.Weak one anyways, ooh he had an affrair, grow up.

The dismissal of the Admiral sounds highly suspect and even if he gambles, so what? Should not lose his career over it.


Yes, this is a purge.Perhaps not a Stalin take them out back and shoot them style purge but this is way purges happen in america right now.Find something to discredit them in the media, push them out.Wonder who is replacing them? Now doubt spineless butt kissing types.They probably fit the bill of "Captain Hanks" from Men of Honor, that is what comes to mind.Pencil Pushing yes men with no guts.

There are other less publicized dismissals but read it is 9 thus far.Yes, a purge and given they all made it so far in careers without any problems, awful suspect they are suddenly not up to standard.

Getting the truth and nothing but the truth from your nutjob know it all buddy Alan Keyes, Bubbles!?!:haha:

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/keyes

You apparently have no clue how the military operates. Try reading the rulebook all military personnel, and especially officers, have to live by. McChrystal could have been a lot more than fired. According to the law he was let off lightly, being allowed to resign.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/888


Or perhaps his girlfriend was sending threatening emails to another friend of his, and it was about to blow up into a major scandal, with the Director of the CIA right in the middle. Resigning may have saved his future.

First, he was not dismissed except from his post, pending investigation. Second, it wasn't because he was gambling, it was because he was allegedly using $1500 in counterfeit chips. If found guilty expect him to go to jail, or at the least to be drummed out of the Navy. If found not guilty expect him to be reinstated with an apology.

All it takes is the tiniest bit of research.

If nothing else, his posting history demonstrates that he does the tiniest bit of research possible.

The problem is that if the research doesn't line up with what he already believes, he tosses it out.

There you go with the condescending tone, I am aware of the official explanations and them using the rules, which are honestly absolute bs.Obama should have been a man about it, took it as hey, the guy who actually knows about military operations is saying our plans are junk but instead, he just booted him out.McCrystal was purged out because obama did not like him, he used the "rules" as an excuse.

Resigning may have saved Petraeus's future but to me, it sounds like he was purged out, most likely for disagreeing with obama and company.There is a very obvious pattern with this admin.

I had read it was for gambling.Hmm well if that is actually true, his mistake.However, the timing just seems to coincidental.Perhaps the Admiral was not a "team" player and they used this to try and purge him.I mean, he is out of his post.Wonder what yes man they are replacing him with.


Just something obviously is going on for them to be throwing out high ranking military people left and right like this.They are smart enough to at least try to give the appearance of a "legitimate" reason. I could be wrong but that is the unfortunate part, this admin has been so dishonest from day 1, it is difficult to ever trust them on anything.I want to sometimes, I don't want to believe some things that are pretty obvious but can not turn away from the truth.

Nice semi veiled insult.Why don't you offer a response instead of an insult? I just explained in response to Steve's post.I would appreciate it if you stop insulting me.

I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is conspiracy theory!

It's not an insult. It's an accurate description of your style. You throw out accusations, provide no evidence for your arguments, and complain that everyone that disagrees with you is part of either some vast conspiracy to turn America communist, or a horde of blind idiots.

But to answer your question:
Because I've asked you questions in several threads, and I'm still waiting for you to put forward some evidence that does not consist of "it's so obvious" or a cut-and-paste of conspiracy thinking. I have no faith that you can present an argument in a reasoned manner. You refuse to discuss issues or even consider that you might be wrong. It is the same as arguing with a brick wall. Every thread you start is filled with you declaring that you are absolutely infallible, so there's no point in a response. You won't listen anyway.

You do not get to ask someone not to insult you while you blatantly insult others in the exact same thread.Treat people how you want to be treated if you cant take what you dish out that is your problem.Beyond that what razark said was not an insult it perfectly describes your pattern of behavior.

First of all - the guy has a gambling PROBLEM. Given both his post (as the #2 nuke guy) and his access to sensitive information, he presents a significant risk to national security. The "timing" is he got busted and the problem came to light.

Next your claim of "what yes man are they replacing him with" - shows you don't have a clear idea of how the military works. Unlike cabinet position, judgeships, diplomatic positions, etc - the administration doesn't appoint people to specific positions inside the military (with the exception of the JCS). For example, someone without the background can't just "run" the Naval Nuke program....

Thirdly - where are your sources? Are you sure it was 9 "flag" rank officers? Maybe it was 20. Or 50? You state something and expect people to accept it as truth - without documentation. That isn't how it works - and you know it.

Finally a series of questions has to be answered. How many senior level military officers have retired/resigned/been forced out during the Obama administration? How does that compare to the same number of years of the Bush Administration, or the Clinton or Reagan comparable years?

Until you offer an apples at apples comparison WITH documentation to back up your argument - its hard to take you seriously. Given my own negative view of the current administration, it is easy to just "latch on" and condemn - but to do so is irresponsible. Show me the documentation.

Otherwise you could just claim Obama is really an illegal alien - as in from Proxima Centauri who landed here and is paving the way for the aliens to invade the planet. He has gutted NASA and stopped our shuttle program and its replacement because if launching like we used to - we would see the alien battle fleet and could prepare. He has ordered all the national parks closed because everyone knows that to see into space you do better to get away from civilization - and by keeping people out of the parks he keeps them from setting up telescopes and seeing the alien menace. He isn't worried about his "legacy" because he knows the alien overlords will just eat us all anyway. Obamacare is nothing more than a way for the aliens to have access to everyone's medical records so that they can determine which people they want to cultivate DNA from for cloning slave labor, food and breeding. The NSA spying on citizens is really nothing more than the aliens making sure that if they are discovered, they can pinpoint whoever knows and get them before the information spreads. That is why they had to infiltrate all the google and yahoo and facebook servers.

See - without documentation - one could claim anything......

That's actually more convincing than the OP!

Really? Then provide a source that isn't them or which doesn't link directly to their crazy conspiracy theories.
There are other sources running it without links to those two crazies, but unfortunately for you they manage the incredible feat of being even funnier than those two fruitcakes.:rotfl2:

Same old same old Bubbles. If you plan to troll do it with some credible evidence. At least it makes it challenging. You not researching really makes you an easy target. CT thread for this one I reckon. But that might highlight the abandoned arguments when you come unstuck on your own words again.

Nothing you're saying has a shred of evidence behind it and therefore its about as sensible as the 4 word story thread. At least that has a narrative that ties together somewhat more than your repetitive attempts to wake up the rest of the world to the evils of Democratic Presidents.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNEFEveCbEs