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AVGWarhawk 07-24-13 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by garren (Post 2089493)
You need to stop viewing yourself as a slave to women. You're holding onto the past chivalry crap from the past because you're scared to let go of it. You probably feel that if you don't protect women and stand up for them that you're not a man and that men like me who refuse to be culturally dictated on what my role as a man is are not men. I'm sick of it with the women's movement. I tried to be like you at one time but I got sick of being scolded that I was a misogynist for holding the door open for women. So I stopped holding doors open for women and then I got scolded that I was a misogynist for not holding doors open for women but men and women who think like you. I would be and should be a feminist. But I can't identify with the movement because it's just too gynocentric and does nothing to help men or boys in areas of life in which men and boys are struggling.


Oh my, now I'm a slave to a women? You're good man. Knocked out my issue in one hour. Saved me gobs of money on therapy. :doh:

It is apparent you have a lot of time on your hands. Perhaps woman are sick of the men's movement(which usually entails a toilet and magazine). I think your energies are best spent on getting the tires rotated. :O:

garren 07-24-13 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2089497)
Oh my, now I'm a slave to a women? You're good man. Knocked out my issue in one hour. Saved me gobs of money on therapy. :doh:

It is apparent you have a lot of time on your hands. Perhaps woman are sick of the men's movement(which usually entails a toilet and magazine). I think your energies are best spent on getting the tires rotated. :O:

You're definitely supporting the slavery of men to women with your current views. If you believe the men in the past oppressed women then you've been brainwashed by leftist liberal feminist nonsense. Men in the past didn't have any malice towards women. It was protection and because most people have a sense that male life is not as superior as female life and therefore expendable. Remember the Titanic? Women and children first? Yeah, all those men who froze and drowned so that most women didn't have to were really oppressing them. :haha:

And note that there were many men and women who complained that men didn't do this for the women during that ship sinking off Italy a few years ago. People are torn on the issue now which is a good thing. It shows progression that male life is being given some level of equality to women's lives but there's still a long ways to go. It's just sad that people actually complained that males didn't ensure all the females got off the ship first. This is 2013 after all. Women want equality and I'm going to hold them too it. That means no more favors or special protections from men. No more men paying on the first date crap either. You work now lady, you can pay half. We're going Dutch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2LpLhOsc4

AVGWarhawk 07-24-13 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by garren (Post 2089503)
You're definitely supporting the slavery of men to women with your current views. If you believe the men in the past oppressed women then you've been brainwashed by leftist liberal feminist nonsense. Men in the past didn't have any malice towards women. It was protection and because most people have a sense that male life is not as superior as female life and therefore expendable. Remember the Titanic? Women and children first? Yeah, all those men who froze and drowned so that most women didn't have to were really oppressing them. :haha:

Perhaps you should start dating men. With such a distaste for women it is your only alternative :up:

August 07-24-13 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2089507)
Perhaps you should start dating men. With such a distaste for women it is your only alternative :up:


I think you're looking for love in all the wrong places AVG. He doesn't strike me as your type!

AVGWarhawk 07-24-13 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2089509)
I think you're looking for love in all the wrong places AVG. He doesn't strike me as your type!

:oops:

Armistead 07-24-13 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 2089305)
Absolutely.



Nothing wrong with that if it works for you. However, it assumes you can/will only love one person. What if you love more than one person?

Or even so - more than one person at a time?

For many, this goes to a religious question, others a moral one in which their beliefs are founded on how they were raised. Still, if your not breaking the law, everyone involved is knowledgeable and willing to accept the situation (however it occurs) - why should it not happen?


Nothing in life is guaranteed.

I suspect your fairly young yet, so let me pass on one very important piece of advice.....

Always meet the mother of any woman your serious about fairly early. Because as she grows older - she is going to turn into her mother, so you better really like her mom so you know you will still like the girl in 20 years or so...

That's more a myth IMO. For one, a girl had as much chance getting her fathers look {body type) as much as the father or even another relative. My wife looks nothing like her mother, she is tall and thin, takes after her fathers side. In fact, she looks like her fathers sister. What's more important to look at is the girls relationship with her father, not the mother. If they have a good loving relationship with the father, they are more apt to be better wives. Girls attitudes towards love comes from their father, that's why they tend to marry men like their fathers, better or worse.

Sure, we have the ability to love many people, that's why in marriage we agree to love only one and commit to that. People should take marriage seriously, because divorce sucks. You better marry someone that can be your best friend.

I think too many feel they fall in love, when it's clear it's gonna be a bad relationship. They try to change the person or themselves. They then stay in a bad relationship because they feel vested. If it's a pain dating, get out ASAP.

AVGWarhawk 07-24-13 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2089520)
You better marry someone that can be your best friend.

The reason for the dating game. So, are we to believe this woman in the video was always a raving lunatic and Mr. Tire Rotation found this acceptable thus committing to a marriage?

August 07-24-13 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2089523)
The reason for the dating game. So, are we to believe this woman in the video was always a raving lunatic and Mr. Tire Rotation found this acceptable thus committing to a marriage?

That's a very good point, he should have seen this in her beforehand.

AVGWarhawk 07-24-13 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2089527)
That's a very good point, he should have seen this in her beforehand.

I'm not saying there are those that can pull the wool and cover up who they really are but.....generally there are signs. Signs the other party will ignore or simply do not wish to see.

Armistead 07-24-13 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2089523)
The reason for the dating game. So, are we to believe this woman in the video was always a raving lunatic and Mr. Tire Rotation found this acceptable thus committing to a marriage?

Don't know, didn't watch it. People tend to marry what is normal for them. If you grow up in an abusive or dysfunctional home, you tend to find that dysfunction in relationships. Many people may claim they hate their parents that were abusive or alcoholics, etc., but then marry the same type individual. For many chaos is normal, they know how to function in it. As much as they claim to hate it, they don't ever change.

My guess is the signs were there before they married, atleast for one of them, but ignored. Like a buddy of mine. He met the most beautiful girl, but what a nasty spoiled attitude. It's clear her father simply bought her love. She has some nice qualities, but clear she is spoiled and use to getting her way. She hates her father, but she is just like him. I hate he can't see he's headed for a life of misery if they get married.

Sure, people can seem perfect and marriage go to hell for numerous reasons. Some people simply change. In these cases, if you can't fix it, get the hell out.

August 07-24-13 11:24 AM

I read somewhere awhile back that when a person falls in love the brain produces chemicals that have the effect of making the victim ignore or dismiss their partners failings. Once the effect dissipates these things can turn from charming to intolerable pretty quickly.

AVGWarhawk 07-24-13 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2089554)
I read somewhere awhile back that when a person falls in love the brain produces chemicals that have the effect of making the victim ignore or dismiss their partners failings. Once the effect dissipates these things can turn from charming to intolerable pretty quickly.

I think this phenomenon happens just before sex and immediately after sex. :har:

Red October1984 07-24-13 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by garren (Post 2089503)
You're definitely supporting the slavery of men to women with your current views. If you believe the men in the past oppressed women then you've been brainwashed by leftist liberal feminist nonsense. Men in the past didn't have any malice towards women. It was protection and because most people have a sense that male life is not as superior as female life and therefore expendable. Remember the Titanic? Women and children first? Yeah, all those men who froze and drowned so that most women didn't have to were really oppressing them. :haha:

And note that there were many men and women who complained that men didn't do this for the women during that ship sinking off Italy a few years ago. People are torn on the issue now which is a good thing. It shows progression that male life is being given some level of equality to women's lives but there's still a long ways to go. It's just sad that people actually complained that males didn't ensure all the females got off the ship first. This is 2013 after all. Women want equality and I'm going to hold them too it. That means no more favors or special protections from men. No more men paying on the first date crap either. You work now lady, you can pay half. We're going Dutch!

Jumping to conclusions again? :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2089520)
That's more a myth IMO. For one, a girl had as much chance getting her fathers look {body type) as much as the father or even another relative. My wife looks nothing like her mother, she is tall and thin, takes after her fathers side. In fact, she looks like her fathers sister. What's more important to look at is the girls relationship with her father, not the mother. If they have a good loving relationship with the father, they are more apt to be better wives. Girls attitudes towards love comes from their father, that's why they tend to marry men like their fathers, better or worse.

Sure, we have the ability to love many people, that's why in marriage we agree to love only one and commit to that. People should take marriage seriously, because divorce sucks. You better marry someone that can be your best friend.

I think too many feel they fall in love, when it's clear it's gonna be a bad relationship. They try to change the person or themselves. They then stay in a bad relationship because they feel vested. If it's a pain dating, get out ASAP.

That's more true than the other one...I think I'll +2 this one.

Armistead 07-24-13 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2089554)
I read somewhere awhile back that when a person falls in love the brain produces chemicals that have the effect of making the victim ignore or dismiss their partners failings. Once the effect dissipates these things can turn from charming to intolerable pretty quickly.

Dang sure kept me messed up for years. They should make a pill to counter that.

BrucePartington 07-24-13 12:22 PM

FWIW, I've learned a memorable lesson with the Florida case (not mentioning names, let it rest, peace).
Now more than ever, I question everything I see or learn, because it's guaranteed to have more to it than meets the eye.

In addition to what has been said here about the mind sugar coating or turning a blind eye to reality, two other options come to mind:
a) she could have some slow progressing mental illness, that wasn't there or was very faint in the beginning;
b) it could also be that over time he simply drove her nuts, playing abusive yet subtle mind games for far too long - he's certainly in control during the recording of her tantrum fit - I've known RL cases;

On a Saturday he refuses to take her wife to the lake, because he has house chores and wants to rotate tires?
Because he can't afford it?
If it were me I'd just bin the to-do list and take my wife out, and even throw in a dine out and a movie.
Unless I no longer loved her and wanted to create a excuse to leave her (not me actually, I just say it upfront in a civilized manner).

I can't help thinking he's provoking her to record her tantrum fit.
This isn't the whole story.


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