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troopie 06-18-13 07:22 AM

How about, if I travel back in time three years, i'll be three years younger and me and the Earth will be at whatever places we were three years ago. If I travel back one hundred years i'll not exist to witness it?

Kinda like hitting rewind.

So, then, If I traveled forward in time, i'd be quite familiar with where ever I ended up as id've allready experienced all that fell between?

Fast forward.

Mittelwaechter 06-18-13 09:27 AM

I guess you won't be younger, but older by the time your time journey would take.

Not only our little earth would have to be where it was three years before, but the whole universe would have to shrink again.
Quite a job to do. Not to mention the light to be put back into its emitters.

Sailor Steve 06-18-13 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by troopie (Post 2072290)
How about, if I travel back in time three years, i'll be three years younger and me and the Earth will be at whatever places we were three years ago.

You'd have to ask Billy Pilgrim about that one.

troopie 06-19-13 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter (Post 2072320)
Quite a job to do.

Time itself would take care of that; running forwards, it does all that anyway, run it backwards and it'd take no more effort. Time's speed and direction, I suspect, are merely an aspect of perspective.


For some reason Milton has just popped into my head, now I'm gunna have to go and boot up SH4 :haha:


I still love watching that intro.....Fly, envious Time,....

Platapus 06-19-13 07:01 PM

Once I put Instant Coffee in the Microwave. I almost went back in time.

mapuc 06-20-13 08:02 AM

Here's anothert thing to think about:

You can only travel back in time to the date, hour, minute, second your timemachine was build. You can't go further back because your timemachine wasn't invented/build then

If we should ever invent such a think, it will be goodbye to betting that's for sure.

Markus

Sailor Steve 06-20-13 09:11 AM

I disagree. The point of having a time machine is to break the laws of time. If I can't visit Nefertiti, Cleopatra, Lucretia Borgia and Mata Hari, why bother?

August 06-20-13 10:40 AM

Exactly. Not to mention the idea that if the machine can't exist prior to it's creation date neither could it's passengers, their clothes and effect or anything else.

Kinda defeats the purpose of a time machine,.... Except of course for playing last weeks lottery numbers! :D

Red October1984 06-20-13 01:41 PM

I think this thread has left me mentally dead.

This is more mental exercise than taking the ACT. :hmmm: Just figuring out how it would work and exist. :dead:

Of course I know exactly what I would do with a time machine.

BrucePartington 06-20-13 03:45 PM

To go back in time you'd have to be able to manipulate the timeline. Since time is part of the Space-Time continuum, this means you'd have to fiddle with both.
And space itself has been determined to be ever expanding and accelerating, from no point in particular. It is just dilating and accelerating doing so.
This also means time is also expanding and accelerating. You just cannot notice it because you are inside of it (the space-time continuum, that is).

Now, reversing the accelerating expansion of the S/T continuum would create a severe unbalance in this particular universe, since while progressing normally, the S/T continuum counters the effects of its Nemesis: anti-space/anti-time continuum.
Now you'd have two anti-space/anti-time continuum, instantly disrupting and bursting this universe, seriously reverberating through contiguous universes, thus creating a S/T continuum Black Hole in the multiverse.
No one would ever notice we came in and out of existence without even have existed at all, since our time was simply erased by S/T continuum overload.

RO, RO! Are you alright?
Medic! MEDIC!!!

Red October1984 06-20-13 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BrucePartington (Post 2073488)
RO, RO! Are you alright?
Medic! MEDIC!!!

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Jimbuna 06-20-13 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrucePartington (Post 2073488)
To go back in time you'd have to be able to manipulate the timeline. Since time is part of the Space-Time continuum, this means you'd have to fiddle with both.
And space itself has been determined to be ever expanding and accelerating, from no point in particular. It is just dilating and accelerating doing so.
This also means time is also expanding and accelerating. You just cannot notice it because you are inside of it (the space-time continuum, that is).

Now, reversing the accelerating expansion of the S/T continuum would create a severe unbalance in this particular universe, since while progressing normally, the S/T continuum counters the effects of its Nemesis: anti-space/anti-time continuum.
Now you'd have two anti-space/anti-time continuum, instantly disrupting and bursting this universe, seriously reverberating through contiguous universes, thus creating a S/T continuum Black Hole in the multiverse.
No one would ever notice we came in and out of existence without even have existed at all, since our time was simply erased by S/T continuum overload.

RO, RO! Are you alright?
Medic! MEDIC!!!

Righteo then :hmmm:

Mittelwaechter 06-20-13 04:30 PM

Time is only a concept. It's a rhythmic interpretation of the natural pulses we observe. Aeons or moments are structured events - a string of it or a single one. We use this concept to organize, to structure our lifes and thoughts.
We observe different pulses - external (i.e. rotation of the planet) and internal ones (i.e. heartbeat). We can't flee them.
We norm them, scale them, to gain some kind of control over our existence.
We have standardized a certain amount of events to be a second, a day or a year.
That's way it seems to 'be' constant and flowing - to be a line.

A moment in time is like an idea. It pops up and from this moment it can be remembered. We can think back to the moment of its appearance. An idea can't be pushed around, neither back nor forward. We can imagine the appearance of a new idea, but we have to wait until it starts to exist. We can't jump to it.

Our Existance is right now - any other moment is nonexistent and can not be conquered by us. We only can remember events gone by and we can imagine events to come.

Sorry for that.

Red October1984 06-20-13 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter (Post 2073518)
Time is only a concept. It's a rhythmic interpretation of the natural pulses we observe. Aeons or moments are structured events - a string of it or a single one. We use this concept to organize, to structure our lifes and thoughts.
We observe different pulses - external (i.e. rotation of the planet) and internal ones (i.e. heartbeat). We can't flee them.
We norm them, scale them, to gain some kind of control over our existence.
We have standardized a certain amount of events to be a second, a day or a year.
That's way it seems to 'be' constant and flowing - to be a line.

A moment in time is like an idea. It pops up and from this moment it can be remembered. We can think back to the moment of its appearance. An idea can't be pushed around, neither back nor forward. We can imagine the appearance of a new idea, but we have to wait until it starts to exist. We can't jump to it.

Our Existance is right now - any other moment is nonexistent and can not be conquered by us. We only can remember events gone by and we can imagine events to come.

Sorry for that.


You should do the opening for a science fiction movie. :har:

Time is a concept...

Mittelwaechter 06-20-13 05:00 PM

Guess what - I did it.

The movie was a prologue for a show event at a convention of my company.

The fate of the company in some distant future. It was one of a few remaining players that made it into space, 76 years after the first contact.


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