Tribesman |
05-24-13 01:49 PM |
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Originally Posted by Webster
(Post 2061820)
wow :hmmm:
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I am glad you agree Steves comment did not make sense.
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Originally Posted by Armistead
(Post 2061814)
Thought this was about the BS? The issue for me is having adults attracted to the same sex being in situations where my childs body would be exposed. We don't put male coaches in the girls high school locker room because of sexual reasons. Sorry, if one is an adult gay male, I don't see how sexual tension wouldn't arise being alone with naked male teens. It's not fair to either party.
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But this is about gay boy scouts not gay boy scout leaders.
If you want to deal with the ban on gay boy scout leaders you can take the issue of the lesbian who got banned from being a boy scout leader as she was gay.
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This issue is about children, not adults in sports, in which I have no problem with the gay issue
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So what about kids in sports, should gay kids be banned from team sports?
Hey I asked that already didn't I.
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Originally Posted by Armistead
(Post 2061833)
Things may have changed, I know in the 70's, during long camping trips we often all used the same public showers. I recall once after a long dirty hike, we all used the open showers outside. It may be leaders don't shower with the scouts today. Still, you see a lot of nakedness, etc.
Again, for me it's more about sexual tension and risk regarding children with adults. As I said, you don't see male coaches in the girls locker room because they would be aroused by the girls nakedness. I don't see how a gay male scout leader could ignore seeing numerous naked male teens. We are aroused by what we're attracted to. It doesn't make the person bad, just not the right situation for adults and children to be in.
If we're honest, if a open gay scout leader came to pick up your 15 year old son to take out into the woods for a 7 day trip, thoughts of concern would cross your mind. This isn't band camp, etc....
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So if it was band camp instead of scout camp you would raise no objections?
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Originally Posted by soopaman2
(Post 2061846)
Why has homosexual become synonymous with Pedophile?
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Good point soopa
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Originally Posted by Armistead
(Post 2061848)
Well, we both know we wouldn't send our daughters out camping with a male leader......because of sexual issues and risk. It's a tough issue, having the same body parts, but same sex attraction.
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Wouldn't you, are you that afraid of nonces being everywhere?
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Originally Posted by Armistead
(Post 2061893)
The issue is simply sexual tension shouldn't be a part of this activity, because scouts often have to expose their sexuality.
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Someone said earlier that such things never had a place in scouting.
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Scouts should be as sexually neutral as possible
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So it wouldn't matter if they was homo or hetro would it?
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Originally Posted by August
(Post 2061904)
You mean like a Den Mother? I had one of those but that was well before puberty so it's not the same thing.
The reason we separate genders post puberty is because of sexuality pure and simple. If you put large numbers of people in that position there will always be problems of that nature.
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So child molesters don't abuse kids before puberty???????
What about if its a woman child molester who abuses little boys, how is your ban on gays going to help there?
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They are basically creating the same situation by allowing open homosexuality. There will be problems and in the case of the Boy Scouts I fear it may be fatal to the organization.
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Isn't that exactly what they said about the military?
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