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August 03-22-13 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2029853)
Oh, I agree. It does happen certainly. The possibility is increasing, I would agree. Only because of the multiple changes in how security of the country is accessed and handled. It will only get worse as the rumor mills and bad media practices continue.

But let me ask you, of the 40 bystanders, was this some sort of drug house raid we normally see on Cops or was this Mr/Mrs USA in their apple pie eating home in the suburbs?


I don't know. Does it make a difference?

AVGWarhawk 03-22-13 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2029931)
I don't know. Does it make a difference?

Yes, I think it would. High crime areas would probably tend to have much more misinformation than say Podunk County population of 25. There are not to many informants providing shaky intel in Podunk. I can not say I have not seen to many police search and seizes on Cops that took place in Mr./Mrs. USA house. The urban setting seems to be the hot spot for that activity. As such, the perception of gun toting cops busting down old door for no good reason could be misleading. Read your excepts from Wiki. Most seem to involve bad drug information received.

I don't know. Signing off for the weekend! :up:

yubba 03-22-13 04:48 PM

They have all ready done it, if you look at my other thread what's wrong with this picture and the gun police have arrived done by_____ sorry I can't remember who wrote it, a mere picture of a kid and a gun got them knocking on the door and that was in New Jersey, with no warrant, and the refusal of wanting to show identification to who they are,,, we are with government we,, are here to step all over your rights.

August 03-22-13 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2029938)
Yes, I think it would. High crime areas would probably tend to have much more misinformation than say Podunk County population of 25. There are not to many informants providing shaky intel in Podunk. I can not say I have not seen to many police search and seizes on Cops that took place in Mr./Mrs. USA house. The urban setting seems to be the hot spot for that activity. As such, the perception of gun toting cops busting down old door for no good reason could be misleading. Read your excepts from Wiki. Most seem to involve bad drug information received.

I don't know. Signing off for the weekend! :up:

What are you saying AVG? A persons life is worth less because they don't live in a safe neighborhood?

I don't think where the victims lived excuses the cops mistake in the least. The government created the war on drugs and it perpetuates it therefore it and it's agents bear full responsibility for their actions.

AVGWarhawk 03-23-13 01:36 AM

You are off the mark August. You are interjecting ideas that have not crossed my mind. My point in the question is some areas it might be more prevalent in wrongful police entry due to the nature and source of information received by police. Take the blinders off. Mr./Mrs. USA apple pie home have about very very low chance of wrongful entry by police due to misinformation . Nowhere did I say a life is worth less because of the location they live. That was your idea. High crime areas were police have informants, go undercover and keep records of the most interesting characters in the area would more than likely get caught up in a wrongful entry due to misinformation. This brings me back to my post stating that I'm not likely to have a wrongful entry due to clean record and associations I keep. I can now kick in the neighborhood I live is not a high crime area. I'm not totally immune but very unlikely to have such a entry to my home occur. I do not lose sleep over Serpico possibly using a ram to gain entry followed by SWAT. So yes, it makes a difference where these 40 people lived as well as the circumstances. I'm not debating who is worthless. I'm debating the near zero likelihood of police entering my home for any reason. You, for some reason believed that I felt immune to this type of situation.


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