Originally Posted by donna52522 (Post 2002795)

Why does the pastor only give 10% to God...shouldn't he give 110%?

Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2002809)

More confusingly... why and how does he give money to God, who doesn't need it? :doh:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 2002575)

http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2013...ipt-on-reddit/



I don't know, maybe it because the Almighty didn't bring you an omlette with toast and the waitress did. Cheap stiff :nope:

Maybe he should give God 20%...

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2002725)

In my neck of the woods generally 8 or more the gratuity is automatically calculated. I'm not always a fan of this practice because it kind of provides the right for the server to handle the service how they wish while still receiving the automatic gratuity. In other words, you don't have a say(monetarily) if the service is bad.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 2002761)

It's necessary to have that for large parties because in many cases, a party of 8 will tip like a party of 3.

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2002805)

I expect to be payed by the guy who employs me and for whom to work I accepted - and that is my employer, the company, boss, maitre de maison, whomever.

Tips are not meant to replace ordinary and regular income for the work done. They are meant as an additional bonus by a guests who is pleased by the good service and wants to say thanks and express his appreciations for some performance that has gone beyond the minimum standard niveau that has to be expected for the price that got payed to the house.

If an employer reduces the wages to his staff because he sees tips coming in for his staff, then he somewhat takes these guests' gifts to service staff for himself - by refusing the staff the wage that there work really is worth. You could pay the tip directly to the manager in the backroom then.

By this you can in principle justify that employers do not pay their employed staff any wages at all. That is the logic of a pimp, then. You could even argue then that employed people not only do not get payed out wages, but that they have to pay a certain amount of their tips to the employer for giving them the place where they could try to collect tips. Capitalism is great, isn't it.

Any economical structure and so: jobs as well should be established on the basis that somebody doing a normal regular weeks schedule of working hours gets payed a salary by his employer that is fair and enables him to make a living. Else the economic branch is unhealthy and rotten, and anti-social. In return, everybody taking money for his working hours should return working quality that justifies these payments. If the one or the other is not given, the employer fires the employed (work results do not justify the wages payed out), or the employed leaves by himself (wages payeddo not justify the work one delivers).

So, giving tips is not a compensation for the salaries the employer does not pay out. It is an extra gift given by the guest for appreciating the performance by staff.

To me, the situation as described - tips needing to compensate for too low wages - is nothing else but abusive behavior by the employer. It kills the intention of the guest. It does not motivate for "standard+better" performance by giving additional cash, but it enslaves people to perform always better without having any additional value for that. Because the added value gets substracted from their ordinary payment by their employer.

Almost a prototypic capitalistic constellation of abuse, imo. Ferenghis no doubt love it.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2002747)

Once my brother, at a restaurant, asked the waitress no less than 5 times for ketchup. It never came. When he got up to leave he stated to waitress he left the tip under the ketchup. :03:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2002805)

I expect to be payed by the guy who employs me and for whom to work I accepted - and that is my employer, the company, boss, maitre de maison, whomever.

Tips are not meant to replace ordinary and regular income for the work done. They are meant as an additional bonus by a guests who is pleased by the good service and wants to say thanks and express his appreciations for some performance that has gone beyond the minimum standard niveau that has to be expected for the price that got payed to the house.

If an employer reduces the wages to his staff because he sees tips coming in for his staff, then he somewhat takes these guests' gifts to service staff for himself - by refusing the staff the wage that there work really is worth. You could pay the tip directly to the manager in the backroom then.

By this you can in principle justify that employers do not pay their employed staff any wages at all. That is the logic of a pimp, then. You could even argue then that employed people not only do not get payed out wages, but that they have to pay a certain amount of their tips to the employer for giving them the place where they could try to collect tips. Capitalism is great, isn't it.

Any economical structure and so: jobs as well should be established on the basis that somebody doing a normal regular weeks schedule of working hours gets payed a salary by his employer that is fair and enables him to make a living. Else the economic branch is unhealthy and rotten, and anti-social. In return, everybody taking money for his working hours should return working quality that justifies these payments. If the one or the other is not given, the employer fires the employed (work results do not justify the wages payed out), or the employed leaves by himself (wages payeddo not justify the work one delivers).

So, giving tips is not a compensation for the salaries the employer does not pay out. It is an extra gift given by the guest for appreciating the performance by staff.

To me, the situation as described - tips needing to compensate for too low wages - is nothing else but abusive behavior by the employer. It kills the intention of the guest. It does not motivate for "standard+better" performance by giving additional cash, but it enslaves people to perform always better without having any additional value for that. Because the added value gets substracted from their ordinary payment by their employer.

Almost a prototypic capitalistic constellation of abuse, imo.

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2002817)

Says who?

Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2002961)

Well I'd assume an omnipresent being who made everything wouldn't need money because he could just make anything he wanted.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2002972)

There's no official government record to show that God made anything.

Is he guilty of contracting without a license? :O:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2002973)

Oh no, I've been helping an illegal! :o

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2002972)

There's no official government record to show that God made anything.

Is he guilty of contracting without a license? :O:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 2002952)

The worst were the hardcore churchgoers who would tip you with their bible tracts.

http://media.twirlit.com/wp-content/...-bible-tip.jpg

If you ever want to enrage a server and ensure that you'll be eating spit or food that's fallen on the floor the next time you visit that particular restaurant, go ahead and leave that as your tip.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2002972)

There's no official government record to show that God made anything.

Is he guilty of contracting without a license? :O:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2003037)

He never filed copyrights so can't fight on that.
No patents on record I can find.
Though he could maybe file defamation or slander Law suits.
:hmmm:

He's a sure winner for those cases if he shows up in Court, in person!