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Originally Posted by HunterICX
(Post 1982183)
He's referring to Sailor's Steve comment. Don't flatter yourself
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Does mean nothing to whom he is referring. He invests quite some time to talk about me, while claiming he does not care for me. Well, I appreciate all the love and affection.
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No matter how many times you're going repeat that...you're wrong.
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Oh, thank you for this insightful and well thought-out argument. The understated though stylish charm of this overwhelmingly convincing argument certainly is irresistible. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us. :yeah:
The dimensions of the term "faith":
1. Trust:
an empirically justified confidence. Trust given unfounded, in advance, is belief (in ordinary language: "I trust you in good faith") - it means one
hopes the other is meeting one'S expectations, empirical hints for that the other will comply, there are none.
2. Belief: a claimed knowledge one has made oneself to
believe to know, or has been told and lectured to believe that one knows, but therefore
believing exclusively. Can be religion-linked, but must not be, and is often met in more profane contexts as well. Can condensate in ritualized practices and traditions that then become their own purpose of existence, basing on a dogmatized expression of the original belief. Hence: the building of an ideology-based motivation. Both in profane and religious contexts it can become anankastic and /or delusional (psychopathologic).
3. Religion: a cult basing on the religious aspects of what has been said under "2. Belief". Religions are cultic/ritualized behavior patterns that justify their practice by referring to a.) historic tradition ("it has always been done and thought like this because the dogma says so") or b.) individual interpretation by the subject what it believes the original basis of the religious dogma (the fundament as referred to under point 2. ) once has been about. Both represents ritualized, cultic behavior and thinking patterns, the first by groups, the second by "freethinking" individuals that are attracted by the idea to live by their own "religious conviction", and often are seen as heretics by the first (groups). - Belief as described under 2.) can result to the forming of a religion, if a sufficiently big group of individuals come together and unite to share a consensus.
And what are
areligious people? That are people refusing to play by any of the rules described under 2.) and 3.). They can be great supporters of the concept under 1.), though: putting their trust where they realise the empirical justification.
