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Stealhead 12-21-12 05:20 PM

Well actually that would make a difference not much but a difference. If someone has an AR15 with a 30 round magazine they have a lot of shooting to do before they run out of ammo and have to reload which is a very fast process on an AR15 I can do it 3 or 4 seconds press the mag release mag drops out on its own slap in a new magazine smack the bolt closure ready to go again.


Regardless of your point of view on gun control you can say that any firearm that can fire more rounds before reloading and that can fire rounds rapidly in any fashion is going to have more effect than one that has less ammo capacity or a slower rate of fire.This is an obvious fact if it where not then armed forces would still be using breach loading rifles but they don't they went from those to bolt actions(faster) to semi automatic(even faster)to fully automatic (even faster) and the number of round per magazine went up progressively as well most bolts had 5 most semi auto had 10 and most fully auto have 20 or 30 the reason is the increase in effect.

Jimbuna 12-21-12 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1980820)
Hand cranked?!

I thought they went out of fashion after 1885! :doh:

Only when in a mood of sexual arousement whilst the lady is out of the house :)

Madox58 12-21-12 05:26 PM

The hand cranked version came out before the electronic version.
Portable drills and dremels just made it easier.
A hand crank is unstable for hand held weapons.
You have trouble staying on center mass while cranking.

The electric version solves that issue and you only need to fight muzzle climb then.

Of course the proper muzzle flash will address that issue.

So, Say Semi-auto fire arms are out lawed.
Given the way things work? We create or increase a whole black market where crooks get rich and people still die.

Stealhead 12-21-12 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1980832)
The hand cranked version came out before the electronic version.
Portable drills and dremels just made it easier.
A hand crank is unstable for hand held weapons.
You have trouble staying on center mass while cranking.

The electric version solves that issue and you only need to fight muzzle climb then.

Of course the proper muzzle flash will address that issue.

Oh you where thinking of the minigun and the Vulcan.I would say that an electronic motor can also produce a far higher RPM than any hand crank could.

Madox58 12-21-12 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1980839)
Oh you where thinking of the minigun and the Vulcan.

I've seen both the hand cranked and electric triggers on Hand weapons.
:o

(A gun is different from a weapon. Ask any Infantry Guy. :haha:)

Stealhead 12-21-12 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1980846)
I've seen both the hand cranked and electric triggers on Hand weapons.
:o

(A gun is different from a weapon. Ask any Infantry Guy. :haha:)

Sure I am aware of that but a firearm is a firearm.

I am not sure I see the logic in an infantryman if he is holding a rifle in his hands which is a gun or firearm or gat whatever in that case its a weapon.:hmm2:

Anything can be a weapon but what ever you normally when you use that thing as a weapon it is a weapon.

Never heard the whole gun is different from a weapon thing though given the context of the situation it can be true the only one I have heard is that a rifle is a rifle not a gun but my dad was in Vietnam maybe they changed it.

Madox58 12-21-12 06:07 PM

Upon calling his weapon a "Gun"?
The offender is usually required to run laps around his area doing several things.

Holding his weapon above his head for the entire time and shouting.
"This is my weapon! (Shakes weapon),
This is my Gun! (Grabs naughty area)
One is for killing (Shakes weapon)
One is for fun! (Grabs naughty area)"

:haha:

Jimbuna 12-21-12 06:20 PM

Too much full metal jacket me thinks

Every country (especially western....even UK) can sight similar similarities :cool:

Stealhead 12-21-12 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 1980859)
Too much full metal jacket me thinks

Every country (especially western....even UK) can sight similar similarities :cool:

Too much something.

Madox58 12-21-12 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 1980859)
Too much full metal jacket me thinks

No Mate.
:D

That is what was done to me when I made the mistake of calling my M16 a "Gun".
:haha:

A lesson I have NEVER forgotten!
:har:

yubba 12-21-12 06:39 PM

I came up with this last nite with my reloading buddy while we were disgussing how well the gun shop across the way was doing,,when the constitution was being written there was two forms of firearm in the 1700s the musket and the rifle and at the time the rifled flintlock was far more supeior than the musket, which the continential army was use-ing at the time and they had no problem of write-ing the 2nd amendment,.. So what part of not to be infringed upon don't you understand.

yubba 12-21-12 06:46 PM

This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine, can't remeber the rest oh well I'll look it up later...

Madox58 12-21-12 06:50 PM

With the current un-employment problems in the U.S.?
A new ban would only provide black market work for an untold number of people.

I personnaly know atlest 10 people that own equipment that can manufacture any part I need to convert or build a complete weapon.

I can build advanced Zip style weapons in my basement now if I so wish.
Hell, I could do that in the field if need be.

Madox58 12-21-12 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1980881)
This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine, can't remeber the rest oh well I'll look it up later...

That's the Riflemans Creed as used by the Marines.

yubba 12-21-12 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1980886)
That's the Riflemans Creed as used by the Marines.

You'd thnik I'd remeber it and I couldn't find my Graduation book where that was written in I couldn't remember my general orders either but boy could I shoot and blow stuff up...


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