So many rumors.

CNN said it was a Ryan Lanza, even posted his picture, but Fox reports it was Adam Lanza. Someone did post SS of Ryan's FB where he was stating it wasn't him, he was at work and cussing CNN for posting his picture. Not sure same family.

Who knows, gonna be a mess and a day or so before we know the truth.

Agreed.

Here is the Bushmaster 223, reported gun used, but comes in different versions, certainly not a hunting rifle per say. 30 round mag....
http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.49202...h=143&c=7&rs=1

I think that much of what the media is stating is not founded they showed a State Police Officer and he made no mention of what type of fire arms where used only that there where two.One outlet says that one of the victims was the shooters mother yet the officials said nothing of this nature.

Media is media they need something to talk about so they say what they hear true or not.

Their is no gun permit "test" you must pass a background check which if you are a felon or have been certified with serious mental illness you will not be able to buy a fire arm in every state if you buy a hand gun there is a waiting period of a few days it varies by state and you must be 21 years old.To buy a rifle/shotgun/long arm you must be 18 and pass a background check you keep the gun the same day you buy.Of course at a a gun show the rules do not apply and you can also sell a gun privately (legally).At gun shows in many states sales are considered personal sale(like a private sale) and if there is a waiting period it does not apply depending on the state and county.Of course some people steal a legally owned weapon from someone else which is another can of worms.And if you are not a felony and not a verified loony(you may still be one) you'll pass the back ground check just fine.

BBC at the moment has Ryan Lanza as being arrested and questioned by the police, but the shooter was apparently his brother Adam. But, yes, like you say, many rumours, as it always is this early in an event.

Reports on UK news are saying he killed his father before going to the school where his mother teaches.

He shot her then opened fire on her pupils.

His dead body is still in the school but it is not yet known how he died.

His younger brother is in Police custody.

I can't begin to imagine how the parents and families of those killed must be feeling :nope:

For a serious lack of any other way to say this, he was pulling a, "I'll show you" at his mother. He had hand guns. Not the fully auto that randomly hits the target. The hand guns were up close, personal and final. I would say his mother was not the first target. She was to experience the horror first. Sadistic? Yes. I do believe this would have been his plan.

I know one thing Jim, for years to come, those who lost children today, will never view the Christmas season the same way again. It will be more pain then happiness. I know it would be for me.

Alas, too true.

Most definitely :yep:

This is what the New York Times says:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/ny...hool.html?_r=0

Without a doubt, eddie.

Those poor people.

Something tells me that this picture will be one that is remembered sadly for a long time.
(It is my understanding that the young lady in this picture was trying to find out if her sister, a teacher at the school, was okay. The outcome of her phone call was not given.)

He didn't use a rifle, he had one in the trunk of his car but he used pistols.

Doesn't look too promising :hmm2:

CNN is now reporting that 20 of the dead are children.

BBC have been saying the same thing for a while. 18 dead on the scene, two died in hospital, one also injured in hospital but still alive apparently.