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August 11-28-12 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 1967202)
@vendor

You're absolutely right!

Let's make it a religion!

Anybody wanna join The Church of Common Sense, and become a Nice Person?

If you make Common Sense a religion then wouldn't that mean government would no longer be able to display what little of it they have left?

Skybird 11-28-12 06:17 PM

Some pralinés from my doc-file with most favorite quotes:

Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one. - Richard Dawkins

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Seneca

If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in a quite different world. - Christopher Hitchens.

Because most religions offer no valid mechanism by which their core beliefs can be tested and revised, each new generation of believers is condemned to inherit the superstitions and tribal hatreds of its predecessors. - Sam Harris

A myth is a religion in which no one any longer believes. - James Feibleman

Takeda Shingen 11-28-12 06:33 PM

We all can throw insulting quotes around until the proverbial cows come home. See? Isn't this fun?

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A disbelief in God does not result in a belief in nothing; disbelief in God usually results in a belief in anything. -- Arthur Lynch

The three great apostles of practical atheism, that make converts without persecuting, and retain them without preaching, are wealth, health and power. -- C C Colton

There is no being eloquent for atheism. In that exhausted receiver the mind cannot use its wings,- the clearest proof that it is out of its element. --Hare

It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion. -- Francis Bacon
I often wonder where this sort of antagonistic vitriol gets mankind. I also find myself questioning if people, both religious and humanist alike, really want to resolve their problems. It seems at points more likely that they wish to destroy each other and will burn the world down at the chance to do so. Our dear, soaring friend I see as a perfect example of this mindset.

Gerald 11-28-12 07:14 PM

I meet people who like to express that they have God on their side, let it just be them self-satisfaction, and the satisfaction when they need it, and believe me, some pray to god love openly.

CaptainHaplo 11-28-12 07:19 PM

Sad. Really sad.

Someone want to try and say this thread didn't just start for the sheer pleasure of deriding the beliefs of those are monotheistic?

Yea ok.

Look at the opening post - and tell me that it had some other purpose.

Gerald 11-28-12 07:25 PM

^What is your opinion, and relationship to God...if ya want to tell of course :hmmm:

August 11-28-12 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1967770)
^What is your opinion, and relationship to God...if ya want to tell of course :hmmm:

Hey give some to get some. Before you start asking for reports, why don't you post your feelings on the subject for a change?

Gerald 11-28-12 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1967698)
when you capitalise the word "God", there is no arbitrariness in what idol is being referred to, it is the hero of the monotheistic desert tradition as presented in the Jewish, Christian and Islamic culture. Other deities or pantheons would be referred to as "gods" with small "g" at the beginning.

Capitalised "God" thus almost equals a personal name, making identification simple. Thus: "God" is not just like any other god(s). Other gods are not "God". The capitalized "God" always is Jewish, Christian or Islamic. Never Egyptian, Nordic, or Greek.

God of the monotheistic desert tradition is seen a perfect deity. This is usually also illustrated in dictionaries, that usally describe "God" as perfect, too. For example:



Thus, either Vendor changes the thread headline to "An imperfect god", indicating that he speaks about deities and idols in general and could pick out just any of the many figures flying around, or he leaves his headline's god capitalized for sure (=God), revealing it to be self-contradictory and making no sense. One could also say his question expresses a doubt that is indeed offensive.

:O:

This time you really messed it up big time, you pitiful sinna of a Vendor, you will burn in hell for your härrässie! :D

Skybird! You should bear in mind that I did not change the conditions of this article, but I took it as it was, and then you interpret it to their satisfaction must be for you, your words are not relevant to me in this context, and you I think this is offensive in my way when I post a topic, the list of words that you choose to spit on me can be made longer, and that you then think that I will burn in hell, there is only weak people who use such words, unfortunately, this has had a negative spiral for you, I can not take you seriously anymore, you should consider your future with the right choice words in conversations and postings.

Gerald 11-28-12 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1967774)
Hey give some to get some. Before you start asking for reports, why don't you post your feelings on the subject for a change?

There is no problem,"for a change"I am happy to share myself with my experience, which I do often, maybe it's that you have not seen it.

Skybird 11-28-12 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1967782)
Skybird! You should bear in mind that I did not change the conditions of this article, but I took it as it was, and then you interpret it to their satisfaction must be for you, your words are not relevant to me in this context, and you I think this is offensive in my way when I post a topic, the list of words that you choose to spit on me can be made longer, and that you then think that I will burn in hell, there is only weak people who use such words, unfortunately, this has had a negative spiral for you, I can not take you seriously anymore, you should consider your future with the right choice words in conversations and postings.

Calm down. Wouldn't you think that it is a contradiction when an atheist like me wishes somebody to burn in hell...? ;) Atheists do not believe in hellfire... I was pulling your leg, hothead, so cool down.

The thing with the capital and small G in god versus God, is fact.

And the last sentences - maybe it got lost in translation for you, but I was pulling your leg, you pitiful sinner of a Vendor, you! :D

Sorry if you got it wrong, but after having reread my post three times I still think that the irony there should be obvious.

And now continue to roast on small flame, will ya? :03:

:salute:

August 11-28-12 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1967783)
There is no problem,"for a change"I am happy to share myself with my experience, which I do often, maybe it's that you have not seen it.

and?

Gerald 11-28-12 08:56 PM

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and?
What do you want to hear?

CaptainHaplo 11-28-12 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1967770)
^What is your opinion, and relationship to God...if ya want to tell of course :hmmm:

My relationship to God is my own (though I have made no secret that I believe in Christ) - and has nothing to do with the fact that the OP is simply a shot at those who choose a monothiestic faith.

I would take issue with it if it singled out those who chose a pantheistic faith as well. Or if it mocked athiests or agnostics.

A thread starting out simply saying why one group of people are fools based on their desire to believe as they choose has no place here in my view. I was under the impression that the rules also prohibit such.

August 11-28-12 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1967788)
What do you want to hear?


Why the same thing that you're asking Hap of course. "Give some to get some".

Gerald 11-28-12 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1967790)
Why the same thing that you're asking Hap of course. "Give some to get some".

That with my role as one of law men, encounter problems when people puts behind bars, pleading to his god to get fair treatment, (which they obviously will get,no matter what faith he or she has) proves part their faith, but also despair of the situation.


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