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MH 03-21-12 04:14 AM

Now...can anyone describe to me what is AQ wanna be?

Reece 03-21-12 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1857389)
The three most likely scenarios, imo:

- it is a rightwing extremist (the soldiers were of Northafrican descent)

- it is a psychotic maniac living his mad dream

- it is a Muhammeddan on jihad

Or a white supremacist neo-Nazi if they exist in France.:hmmm: But on a scooter!:88)

Skybird 03-21-12 06:20 AM

Seems to be an Islamist and confessing Al Quaeda-sympathiser who has been under long-running police observation in the past.

Dread Knot 03-21-12 07:22 AM

Apparently one of the clues that led police to him, was that he was making inquiries at local garages about having his now famous black scooter repainted.

Oops.

TLAM Strike 03-21-12 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1858263)
I'm still willing to bet he's a wannabe rather than an actual AQ member.

As I mentioned in a previous post the wannabes are very much what AQ is now. AQ is mostly limited to encouraging individuals over seas to conduct Jihad or occasionally equipping some lone operator with some explosives. The exception is groups like AQIM and AQAP.

It would be curious to find out who he as been talking to at the local mosque and what internet contacts he has had.

TLAM Strike 03-21-12 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1858268)
Now...can anyone describe to me what is AQ wanna be?

Men like Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad or Nidal Hasan

the_tyrant 03-21-12 08:44 AM

The guy is caught: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17462604

seems like he is an Islamist extremist

Jimbuna 03-21-12 08:48 AM

Can't do any more harm to people now :cool:

TLAM Strike 03-21-12 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1858363)
Can't do any more harm to people now :cool:

I don't know. Each one seems to encourage others.

:nope:

Jimbuna 03-21-12 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1858365)
I don't know. Each one seems to encourage others.

:nope:

I take your point but I meant him physically as an individual.

Heaven only knows how many like him are out on the streets in many a country.

Penguin 03-21-12 11:13 AM

His apartment is still under siege, more and more details about the guy emerge: It is claimed that he was in a camp in the Pakistan/Afghanistan region and even in a prison in Kandahar.
In France he was a model citizen, there he committed only a robbery and some other violent crimes. :nope:
His motive: revenge for the killing of Palestinian children.... :damn:
If he really wanted to get revenge for this, why not travel to Gaza and blow away some Hamas members?


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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1858352)
As I mentioned in a previous post the wannabes are very much what AQ is now. AQ is mostly limited to encouraging individuals over seas to conduct Jihad or occasionally equipping some lone operator with some explosives. The exception is groups like AQIM and AQAP.

^this

AQ is no social club with a membership card, nor a structured organization, this is why "lone wolfes" can also be part of the network.

Skybird 03-21-12 12:19 PM

Al Quaeda since many years poses a threat not so much by being an organisation. It is an idea, a goal to crave for, an ideal. That is what makes it so dangerous an enemy, and so difficult to battle. It'S beachheads and opening gates could be the mind of any individual person anywhere in the world.

"War on terror". Yeah, sure.

MH 03-21-12 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1858442)
"War on terror". Yeah, sure.

Yeah sure...because if you just sit on your ass you will have terrorist with AQ membership card running around.

TLAM Strike 03-21-12 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1858451)
Yeah sure...because if you just sit on your ass you will have terrorist with AQ membership card running around.

Can't happen right?

Oberon 03-21-12 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1858268)
Now...can anyone describe to me what is AQ wanna be?

Generally speaking (at least in the way I referenced it) it refers to a (usually) young Muslim man who is disaffected with his lot in Western society, reads one too many extremist phamplets or websites and decides that he's going to do his bit 'for Allah'. He's not actually met with proper AQ members, and the closest he's been to Tora Bora is Islamabad, but he has been inspired by other extremist acts around the world to do his own little bit 'for the cause'.

The beauty of extremism is that you don't need a monthly newsletter or a proper organised group, you just need to be able to inspire random individuals to create an act of terror, which can be anything from a shooting to a bomb to a hijacked airliner, depending upon the level of organisation. Now, generally speaking, these days the police and intel agencies are pretty hot on the case of most extremists, and the more organised and bigger a group, the more likely it is that they will be found out, so that leaves it down to individuals who own a hand grenade or a gun, to go out and make their contribution to the cause.


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