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Some 14 groups in Eire/Republic of Ireland/Northern Ireland/Ulster/Whateveryouwanttocallit. Germany's had it's BM-gang, later the Red Army Faction, and I'm sure some others. France and Spain have their varying Basque Separatists, amongst others. Just about every european country appears to have had it's violent 'separatists' in one form or another, some more than others. I don't know all the facts and figures, but the IRA alone were responsible for some 1800 murders. So in the US you may guess 'Muslim', but for the rest of us they are only part of the story. *standing by for flack/abuse* |
The number of thwarted Islamic terror strikes in Europe and the assumed death tolls they would have caused, the detah toll from those terror strikes that actually took place, as well as the number of actual Islamic crimes like honour killings, family gang rapes, physical violence, kidnapping and the like, outclasses that committed by right wing groups, the Red Army Faction, or Nazi groups.
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Total dead from the Troubles alone equals nearly two thousand, and that's just civilians. I think if you were to compare, in the UK alone, the deaths from Islamic causes and the deaths from Irish causes, Islamic deaths would be rather outnumbered.
I won't deny though, it's a different type of terrorist we face now, the old IRA would (7/10 times) ring through a warning, or be predictable in where they planted their bombs, I imagine the amount of bombs that were prevented by action by the Bomb Squad during the Troubles to be in the hundreds, if not thousands. Most were small nail bombs, but the odd car bomb wasn't unheard of. However, there was not one incidence (that I'm aware of) of an Irish suicide bomber. In fact, the PIRA had an even worse tactic than a suicide bomber, the 'Proxy bomber' where they'd chain a Catholic victim to a car full of explosives, hold his family at gunpoint and force the guy to drive up to a British checkpoint where they would detonate his car by remote control. Thankfully, the revulsion it caused amongst the PIRAs supporters meant that the 'Proxy bomber' was an infrequent event. Certainly there are some in the UK who may think that all this 'be on the alert for terrorists' thing is new, but I am not one of them, I've been used to seeing signs warning of 'unattended luggage' since I first started traveling on public transport, I remember the Docklands bombing, and Omagh, and whilst a suicide bomber is much harder to stop than a conventional car bomb or bin bomb, we have the anti-terrorist skill set in place and have had it in place for decades, all we have done is change the enemy from the IRA to Al'Qaeda. In terms of honour killings, well...yes, that is quite new...well, new in this century in the UK anyway, and it is ugly, and we are having to adapt to deal with it. |
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Obviously not as Sky instantly goes off into the realms of insane fiction again because ...well because its gottabethemuslims:doh:. Still you learn something new every day, apparently physical violence is islamic terrorism in europe and they do more of it than the locals. I am sure in your job you must have been swamped by thousands of examples violent of islamic geordies every weekend having their good old rage vent after friday solomn prayers at the watering holes which would then turn into saturdays homage to the religious frenzy of Bacchus . |
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