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GoldenRivet 12-09-11 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1802947)
Did anyone else root for the death star at the Battle of Alderaan? :hmmm:

They had it coming.


plus... it really helped move the story along

Ducimus 12-09-11 06:36 PM

I think the next time I install any Silent Hunter title, be it 3, 4, or 5, im going to make it a point to machine gun every lifeboat i see, just out of spite.

soopaman2 12-09-11 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1802951)
I think the next time I install any Silent Hunter title, be it 3, 4, or 5, im going to make it a point to machine gun every lifeboat i see, just out of spite.

Why haven't you been doing it already?

Your not wasting those bullets on planes are you?:O:

Madox58 12-09-11 06:41 PM

The one thing that is kind of scary?
That anyone would actually sit down and discuss this type thing.
Lord knows that lesser 'Do Gooders' have done wonders at screwing things up!

So I can imagine a 'virtual' War Crimes type thing actually happening in a way.

Muppets are now Commies, Rudolph the Red Nose RainDeer breeds Bullies,
etc, etc.....

The Virtual World is becomeing a ground for every 'I need to make a name for my self' Nut job out there!
:nope:

soopaman2 12-09-11 06:44 PM

I played JFK reloaded. Can't quite reproduce Oswald, but I did cap Jaquie O in the back of the noggin a few times for fun.

Is the secret service on it's way over?

Takeda Shingen 12-09-11 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1802933)
When I think of all those times I ruthlessly cut down hordes of villagers in Age of Empires so I could build more soldiers. :o

Oh god, I used to do that too. Sometimes, if the game world was not too developed, I would send them out to fight some wolves, or into an enemy settlement just for kicks.

Task Force 12-09-11 06:49 PM

Do my massacres in strategy games count?

I though the red cross was more in the blood business not the game business...

Ducimus 12-09-11 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1802967)
Do my massacres in strategy games count?
.

I'm a practitioner of the scorched earth policy myself. :arrgh!:

TLAM Strike 12-09-11 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1802964)
I played JFK reloaded. Can't quite reproduce Oswald, but I did cap Jaquie O in the back of the noggin a few times for fun.

I took the driver out once. Caused the limo to go out of control in to the crowd killing everyone in the limo and a bunch in the crowed. :haha:

I took out Johnson a few times as well. :shifty:

Task Force 12-09-11 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1803007)
I'm a practitioner of the scorched earth policy myself. :arrgh!:

Same! If Hearts of Iron counts... ive killed Millions, Not including my human waves in Men of War.

Platapus 12-09-11 10:08 PM

http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/do...2011-12-08.htm

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Is there a place for the laws of armed conflict in video games?

08-12-2011 FAQ

The International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement recently discussed the implications of video games that simulate real-war situations and the opportunities the games may present for spreading knowledge of the laws of armed conflict. Some questions and answers on this subject are provided below.

Why is the ICRC interested in video games that simulate real warfare?

The ICRC is interested in issues relating to video games of this type, i.e. games simulating warfare where players face choices just like on a real battlefield.
In real life, armed forces are subject to the laws of armed conflict. Video games simulating the experience of armed forces therefore have the potential to raise awareness of the rules that those forces must comply with whenever they engage in armed conflict – this is one of the things that interests the ICRC. As a matter of fact, certain video games already take into account how real-life military personnel are trained to behave in conflict situations.
Part of the ICRC's mandate, conferred on it by States, is to promote respect for international humanitarian law – also known as the law of armed conflict – and universal humanitarian principles. Given this mandate and the ICRC's long history and expertise in matters relating to armed conflict, the development of these games is clearly of interest to the organization.
A few media reported that certain virtual acts performed by characters in video games could amount to serious violations of the law of armed conflict. Is this correct?

No. Serious violations of the laws of war can only be committed in real-life situations, not in video games.
Does the ICRC work with video-game developers to make sure the law of armed conflict features in certain games?

The ICRC has expressed its readiness to engage in a dialogue with the video gaming industry in order to explore the place of humanitarian rules in games. The ICRC welcomes the fact that certain video games on war-related themes already take the law of armed conflict into account.
Shouldn't the ICRC be primarily concerned with real-life warfare?

Absolutely, and real-life armed conflict and its humanitarian consequences are in fact its primary concern.
With its roughly 12,000 staff, the ICRC carries out humanitarian activities in situations of armed violence all over the world. It is often the first organization to arrive on the scene when conflict erupts and to attend to the needs of people detained, displaced or otherwise affected. It also strives to bring about improved compliance with the law of armed conflict and thereby contribute to creating an environment conducive to respect for the dignity of persons affected.
Why does the ICRC show interest in video games but not, for example, in books, comics, TV series or films?

The ICRC is occasionally approached by filmmakers or authors who want to portray its activities in past or present armed conflicts. It has thus had contacts with various segments of the entertainment world beyond the developers of video games. The ICRC is not interested in all video games – only in those simulating armed conflict. Some of these games are being designed and produced by the same companies developing simulated battlefields for the training of armed forces.
What was said on this subject at the 31st International Conference of the Red Cross and Red Crescent?

The 31st International Conference met in November 2011 in Geneva with the overall objective of strengthening international humanitarian law and humanitarian action. In a side event, participants also explored the role that the law of armed conflict plays, or does not play, in simulations of war. They considered various ways in which the rules applicable in armed conflict could feature in simulations. The side event was an informal discussion; no resolution or plan of action was adopted.

TLAM Strike 12-09-11 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1803011)
Same! If Hearts of Iron counts... ive killed Millions...

I'm really screwed now: I went with "Purge the Traitors" in the Stalin's Purges event...

:o

Kaye T. Bai 12-09-11 10:50 PM

Playing a computer game the other day where I was a private military contractor and had to ambush a U.N. convoy and kill a few weapons inspectors being transported. :yeah:

CaptainHaplo 12-10-11 12:40 AM

Well I am probably going to be pretty high on the list...

Conflict: Middle East Political Simulator.....

I don't think I ever completed that game without having committed copious amounts of violence in conquering Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan before it was done.

TLAM Strike 12-10-11 12:42 AM

I'm really in trouble. In Europa Universalis I not only launched crusades, started the Spanish Inquisition, I also exterminated countless native tribes in Africa and the New World. :o


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