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Takeda Shingen

11-27-11 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1795004)

The point is that the "Horde of Asians riding west" is the constant fear of Russia. The Mongolians were the dominate group back then, the Han Chinese are now. :03:

But they weren't Chinese, which is the real point. If you were to point to tensions with the Dynastic rulers over trade and land, you would have made a better analogy. However, the Mongols were just as much a threat to the Chinese as they were the Russians; going as far to build The Wall to keep them out. What you argued was like blaming the tension between Palestinians and Israelis on the Crusades. The crusaders were indeed common enemies to both groups, but the two have their very own reasons for hating each other.

nikimcbee

11-27-11 01:12 PM

If China were the aggressor, do you think they'd pull a "lebensraum" and try to annex part of Siberia?

Didn't Tom Clancy do a novel about this anyway?

If China really wanted to hurt the US, all they would need to do is a trade embargo. Block all exports to the US. Not a naval blockade:haha:, but block ships leaving their ports. How long could Walmart hold out?

nikimcbee

11-27-11 01:14 PM

I was under the impression China-Russia were playing nicely together?:06:

Takeda Shingen

11-27-11 01:15 PM

The fact that we are now citing Tom Clancy demonstrates the implausibility of a conflict anytime in the forseeable future.

mapuc

11-27-11 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94 (Post 1794984)

I believe you are correct. The Russians and the Chinese has been at each others througts since the 60`s. The Russians had more plans for attacking China that the US. China then saw Russia as a bigger threat than the US. Russia and China had many border clashes that the US and USSR never had. If there`s a war between China and Russia, and China is the aggressor and Russia is doing poorly, I do believe that the US will indirectly support Russia.

Not so long ago, I red a book from Tom Clancy The name of the book was (in danish-bjørnen og Dragen) in english The bear and the Dragon.

Markus

Platapus

11-27-11 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1795016)

The fact that we are now citing Tom Clancy demonstrates the implausibility of a conflict anytime in the forseeable future.

Are you proposing the creation of a new Internets Tubes rule?

The Tom Clancy Rule - any citation of Tom Clancy books as an explanation for actual foreign policy analysis immediately removes all credibility of the poster.

:know:

nikimcbee

11-27-11 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1795025)

The book was so exciting, I don't remember anything from it, other than the PRC and Russia have at each other.:dead:

Takeda Shingen

11-27-11 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1795025)

Beautiful. Let the engraving begin. :up:

Gerald

11-27-11 02:11 PM

I would recommend a visit to the country, to see which major restrictions there are, among others ... Internet usage across the country do have a built-iron ride, certainly nothing new .. but it takes encrypted sources for it to float on, :arrgh!:

mapuc

11-27-11 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1795028)

The book was so exciting, I don't remember anything from it, other than the PRC and Russia have at each other.:dead:

US came to Russia with lots of equiptment and lots of soldiers and they helped the russians to beat the hell out of the chinese(but you remember that or?)

Markus

Jimbuna

11-27-11 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1795028)

The book was so exciting, I don't remember anything from it, other than the PRC and Russia have at each other.:dead:

Probably the book...The Bear and the Dragon:

http://triviana.com/books/beardrag.htm

nikimcbee

11-27-11 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1795094)

Probably the book...The Bear and the Dragon:

http://triviana.com/books/beardrag.htm

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In other words, Jack Ryan has become a moron.
Thankfully, both for the fictional world Clancy has developed, and for his readers, there are other characters in ''The Bear and the Dragon'' who are not morons, and many of them are fighting the good fight.

:haha:

kraznyi_oktjabr

11-27-11 05:19 PM

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Surprise, surprise... President of the United States is a moron...

:O:

Betonov

11-28-11 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr (Post 1795171)

Surprise, surprise... President of the United States is a moron...

:O:

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
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