SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

SUBSIM Radio Room Forums (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/index.php)
-   General Topics (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=175)
-   -   Is Obama Toast? Handicapping the 2012 Election (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=189293)

1480 11-03-11 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 1780213)
Here's a question to you.

Would you like to be the next president for the US??

If you do nothing to the debt and other things-people gonna hate you

If you do something about it and I presume it's some tuff decision you have to make-people gonna hate you.

I would not.

Offcourse the president do not have to do all the job.

Markus

Valid points.

I for one would just be happy for a true leader.

Platapus 11-03-11 09:04 PM

Would anyone want to be President with the current state of Congress???

I think the current political attitudes will do more harm than anything else to our country. It seems like we have a bunch of children in congress, none of them seems to care about taking care of the country but seem only to be interested in party before country.

Bubblehead1980 11-03-11 09:16 PM

Barring a major recovery of the economy(LOL right) or GOP running a flip flopping guy like Romney, Obama is definitely out.

Bubblehead1980 11-03-11 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1780243)
Would anyone want to be President with the current state of Congress???

I think the current political attitudes will do more harm than anything else to our country. It seems like we have a bunch of children in congress, none of them seems to care about taking care of the country but seem only to be interested in party before country.


Congres is mostly ok, they just are not willing to give into obama's crappy plans. Look at where a cooperative congress lead by Reid and Pelosi got us.Blame lies with Obama and his failed policies as well as refusing to accept his left wing views have been proven incorrect.

mookiemookie 11-03-11 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1480 (Post 1780225)
The strange part of all of this: as Romney has kept silent this past week, his poll numbers increased. :hmmm:

Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. Perry and Cain are destroying themselves, and Romney's just sitting back and letting it happen.

Torplexed 11-03-11 09:53 PM

The case for Obama.

http://pyxis.homestead.com/obamacase.jpg

1480 11-03-11 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1780257)
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. Perry and Cain are destroying themselves, and Romney's just sitting back and letting it happen.

Absolutely. Can you explain why Biden still has career without invoking the name of McConnell???? Your answer should read in form of a question, and should be within 1800 words or less. Thank you please drive up to the first window.;)

CCIP 11-03-11 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1480 (Post 1780225)

The strange part of all of this: as Romney has kept silent this past week, his poll numbers increased. :hmmm:

Well not necessarily strange. Right now there seems to be a battle going on over Cain's credibility due to these harassment allegations. It drives some people to him some people away from him. It may be encouraging some voters to go over to Romney instead. What's more interesting though is that, last I checked, Cain's poll numbers have actually increased in the past week as well.

1480 11-04-11 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1780266)
Well not necessarily strange. Right now there seems to be a battle going on over Cain's credibility due to these harassment allegations. It drives some people to him some people away from him. It may be encouraging some voters to go over to Romney instead. What's more interesting though is that, last I checked, Cain's poll numbers have actually increased in the past week as well.

Just wondering who leaked the story....Cain #'s up may be an anomaly, though I hate to use that as an excuse for anything. Voting public see this as a charade? Not sure I give them that much credit. White guilt part II? My head hurts....:-?

Tribesman 11-04-11 09:17 AM

Quote:

Just wondering who leaked the story
Well the wingnut presenters said it was the worldwide liberal media conspiracy who want to keep the blackman down.
Cains camp have blamed so far the Republican party, his old employers, two of his current republican opponents, his old politcal campaigh staff, his business associates, the democrats, Rahm Emanuel, Obama.....I think they are blaming the grassy knoll next to then be followed by the bell boy.

The damage being done to Cain is not by the allegations themselves but by his ever changing excuses about them.
But look on the bright side for him, there must be another book in all this

1480 11-04-11 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1780498)
Well the wingnut presenters said it was the worldwide liberal media conspiracy who want to keep the blackman down.
Cains camp have blamed so far the Republican party, his old employers, two of his current republican opponents, his old politcal campaigh staff, his business associates, the democrats, Rahm Emanuel, Obama.....I think they are blaming the grassy knoll next to then be followed by the bell boy.

The damage being done to Cain is not by the allegations themselves but by his ever changing excuses about them.
But look on the bright side for him, there must be another book in all this

I read some where that the lawsuits were filed two years after he left his post......its more difficult to defend yourself when you have no idea of whats going on----ONLY IF THAT PART OF THE STORY IS TRUE. Had he kept his mouth shut....hmmmmm

gammaphialpha 12-21-11 05:18 AM

If Obama loses my vote it will not be because of things that were out of his control. It will be because rather than speak forcefully for change, and make the promised changes that were within his power, he backed down even on executive decisions that were all his to make, in the mistaken belief that he would appeal to a broader electorate..

the_tyrant 12-21-11 08:29 AM

Off topic, but I just had a crazy day dream

I dreamed that Mussolini won against Obama on the "at least our trains run on time" platform:rotfl2:

1480 12-21-11 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gammaphialpha (Post 1808571)
If Obama loses my vote it will not be because of things that were out of his control. It will be because rather than speak forcefully for change, and make the promised changes that were within his power, he backed down even on executive decisions that were all his to make, in the mistaken belief that he would appeal to a broader electorate..

Clinton understood that in order for him to get reelected he needed to get a moderate message across. Obama is not a leader but more of a prop that is being used by others to get their agenda across. It could be argued that some presidents were merely figureheads merely stumping for certain interests.

Hope and change was nothing more than double speak for "anyone who isn't a WASP."

Takeda Shingen 12-21-11 09:35 AM

I don't know, 1480, I think you'd have a hard time attempting to prove middle-aged white men as an oppressed minority. I'm reminded of a scene in a Simpsons episode (back in the 90's, when the episodes were actually good) where Lisa and Grandpa are lamenting the fact that no one cares what they think:

Lisa: It's awful being a kid. No one listens to you.

Grandpa: It's rotten being old. No one listens to you.

Homer (entering from the side): I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:42 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.