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kiwi_2005 10-20-11 12:25 PM

Another video,

Muammar Gaddafi killed as Sirte falls

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/af...520869621.html

AVGWarhawk 10-20-11 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1771540)
I just hope the people get what they want in the end, and foreign governments don't meddle anymore. It only breeds contempt down the line. Which is always paid for in blood (We armed the taliban against Soviets, they used said materiel against the US later)

We (UN) did our part. Back out, let the people do theirs...For better or for worse.

Unlikely the people will get what they want. Someone similar to Gaddafi will take power.

Oberon 10-20-11 12:33 PM

Oh, rest assured the role that NATO played in this will be forgotten very quickly by Libya...until something goes wrong, and then it will all be NATOs fault.

MH 10-20-11 12:35 PM

The fate of libya is uncertain but i would bet on tribal war similar to whats going on in Iraq.

The tribes supporting Qaddafi are not defeated yet and there is a question if the rebels will stick together.
Add to this possible outside interests.

Another leader Qaddafi style is good case scenario.

BossMark 10-20-11 12:38 PM

Goodbye to bad rubbish :haha:

soopaman2 10-20-11 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MH (Post 1771561)
The fate of libya is uncertain but i would bet on tribal war similar to whats going on in Iraq.

The tribes supporting Qaddafi are not defeated yet and there is a question if the rebels will stick together.
Add to this possible outside interests.

Another leader Qaddafi style is good case scenario.

I will have to agree.

Qaddafi (in terms to middle eastern despots) was mild and at least able to be talked to diplomatically.

I remember him (so called) dismantling his nuclear program not too long ago to appease the UN (US). Which I saw as a good faith sign.

He just wasn't good for his own people, and that is all that mattered. (my country was born of rebellion too, so I get it)

Hopefully the people of Libya get what they fought and shed blood for. Would be a shame to see it spiral something even worse. Your point on tribal position jostling, and infighting leaves me in fear for their future.

Subnuts 10-20-11 01:08 PM

When this revolution started, I said that Ghadaffi was gonna end up going out like Mussolini.

Anybody want to hear my other predictions? :know:

vienna 10-20-11 01:12 PM

Only if you have the winning lottery numbers... :DL

Rockstar 10-20-11 03:25 PM

It will be interesting to see what tribal leader will take his place. Will it be an anti-western dictator or a pro-western dictator. I'd wager this revolution will more specifically place a European friendly dictator in. And that it doesn't have jack squat to do with the freedom and democracy bandwagon everyone always drools over. Instead it's more to do with Europe's need for oil and preventing Russia from gaining complete control of how much oil Europe can have and at what price.

Russia several years ago went to war for oil so has the United States. Of course we hear from our pacifist European friends how wrong that is. But as we see in Libya, Europe will too. They just stage a revolution and let someone else spill their blood for it. I wonder if releasing al-Megrahi wasn't Europe's way of kissing Libyan butt to keep receiving its oil from BP instead of GAZPROM.

Tribesman 10-20-11 04:04 PM

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I wonder if releasing al-Megrahi wasn't Europe's way of kissing Libyan butt to keep receiving its oil from BP instead of GAZPROM.
No, Magrahi was just to stop Britain humiliating itself again in the courts.

Jimbuna 10-20-11 04:09 PM

Well he is history now...I hope the Libyan people can now look forward to some peace and stability.

MH 10-20-11 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=Rockstar;1771634 I wonder if releasing al-Megrahi wasn't Europe's way of kissing Libyan butt to keep receiving its oil from BP instead of GAZPROM.[/QUOTE]


It seems it could be as a part of the improvement in relations between Libya and UK.
It was done supposedly on Qaddafi request after he denounced WMD development and promised to be a good boy, securing some deals with EU.
(he did not like what happened to Saddam Hussein)
I should say it saved embarrassment to both countries while the Scots took the fire.

Quote:

Well he is history now...I hope the Libyan people can now look forward to some peace and stability
Yeah actually it would be good thing to see for a change.

SubV 10-20-11 04:50 PM

So many brainwashed people here...

Orwell was obviously right.

Rilder 10-20-11 05:09 PM

Related

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewto...er=asc&start=0

Its a Hearts of Iron 2 Modern Day scenario Let's Play/AAR with the player playing Libya. :O:

MH 10-20-11 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SubV (Post 1771680)
So many brainwashed people here...

Orwell was obviously right.

Some witty quote should follow then.


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