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Tribesman 10-10-11 03:45 PM

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The rules in the article that say that balloons will need to be properly marked and the like.
So nothing at all about them being banned for kids:yeah:

What you have is a chocking hazard label regulation which in that specific case concerning balloons is moved from another piece of existing legislation over labels from 2005 as balloons are covered elsewhere...like with suction cups used on decorations.
So no new legislation at all in that regard, just a unifying of an existing provision into another provision by referencing it.


If Bruno wanted to write some sensationalist nonsense about balloons he should have written it 6 years ago and gone on about how terrible it is that balloon packets have to contain this little slip of paper.
Or even better he could have written it when the rules that were redone in 2005 were originally written

BTW "Quoted Rules" thats plural isn't it, the only other one close to being a "quoted rule" most certainly doesn't say what he says it says does it.

Betonov 10-10-11 03:51 PM

Right, trade sanctions, that would definately bury this country. :nope:
I'm not going to go into what if this country was completely self suficient, that would be pushing it :DL too late for so much philosophy.

Respenus 10-10-11 03:54 PM

Here's the paragraph of the offending latex balloons, seen here, given only as an example:

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According to article 18 of the TSD a Risk/Hazard assessment shall be carried out to determine the risks/hazards of a toy. The toy should be designed in such a way that as many hazards as possible are eliminated or that residual risk is minimized to an acceptable level. The residual risks should be described through adequate warnings and/or instructions for use. E.g. the risk of drowning presented by aquatic toys can not be 100% eliminated by the design of the toy. Therefore supervisors should be informed that the toy shall be used in shallow water and under supervision of an adult. For latex balloons there must be a warning that children under 8 years must be supervised and broken balloons should be discarded. Activity toys shall be provided with a warning that they are for domestic use only.
Again, guidelines, not the directive itself. Plus, I see no ban, merely instructions. You can print that on a small piece of paper that's attached to the packaging. Nevertheless, I should once again that what I do agree with, is that sometimes, things can be taken by the EU into a rather extreme direction. In the name of safety has rarely proven to be a positive argument.

@Betonov
No, there are no internal trade sanctions. Go have a beer, forget about things for a while ;) You can get paranoid by staying in these forums for a prolonged period of time. Never has a single member of the EU taken aggressive action towards another and never has the Commission been put into a situation that would deprive countries of the most important contribution of the EU, that is trade. Yes, the EU has problems, massive ones at that, but please, let's not believe everything you see in the media. Or what people write in these forums, myself included. We can all be wrong. Take a look at the rules yourself, that's the beauty of things today. Free access to information. Use it to become a better citizen, of Slovenia and the EU. That goes for everyone.

Tribesman 10-10-11 04:08 PM

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Again, guidelines, not the directive itself.
Yes
And if you look at the guidlines you will see that it is already specificly covered from 2005 but wasn't in 88/378, all they have done is referenced across to an existing piece.

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Plus, I see no ban, merely instructions
Indeed , which is why the newspaper article was crap.

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You can print that on a small piece of paper that's attached to the packaging.
They already do, they have done for years.

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Nevertheless, I should once again that what I do agree with, is that sometimes, things can be taken by the EU into a rather extreme direction.
No arguement there, but all too frequently the EU target that is chosen as a terrible example of "Brussels gone mad" turns out to be a complete non story, as in this case.

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In the name of safety has rarely proven to be a positive argument.
That depends entirely on the specific issue and the legislation as well as the enforcement.
Hey at least they still allow Kinder Eggs, Americans have to smuggle those as the european safety laws on food/toys mixed in the same package are not as strict as the US ones.

JU_88 10-10-11 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1764501)

As if they can enforce these rules.... Jackasses.

Herr-Berbunch 10-10-11 06:00 PM

The balloon thing didn't bother me, but I'll be glad of a ban on those stupid party-whistle-things. :woot: <Yeah, them!

Whoever decided this rule must be a parent. :yeah:

Tribesman 10-10-11 06:05 PM

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As if they can enforce these rules.... Jackasses
Of course they can, the real rules not the invented ones from the article .
If we wasn't in the EU we would still have a pile of these and there would be little stickers and little signs on products with Is written on them. If you wasn't in the EU you would have a pile of these rules and all the products would have Bs written on them. If it was cross border trade like from the republic to the six then all the products would have both Is and Bs written all over them...which was a bit of a waste of time as even if the regulations were identical the British Standard would have a different reference number than the Irish Standard.

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but I'll be glad of a ban on those stupid party-whistle-things.
Lobby your MEPs , they are not banned.


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