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Fish In The Water 10-04-11 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1761055)
Why would they reward you for following orders? :sunny:

Cause hardly anyone does and doing so makes you stand out from the crowd? :D :O:

Sailor Steve 10-04-11 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish In The Water (Post 1761094)
Cause hardly anyone does and doing so makes you stand out from the crowd? :D :O:

:rotfl2: :yeah:

Of course if that's the case I should be promoted to Admiral after my first patrol. :sunny:

Jimbuna 10-05-11 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1761117)
:rotfl2: :yeah:

Of course if that's the case I should be promoted to Admiral after my first patrol. :sunny:

Back in the cook house with you...tis time to peel the spuds.

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JazzJR 10-05-11 10:33 AM

I love these moments...."SHIP SPOTTET!!!" Then the dramatical battle music starts. You go to Periscope depth and search. THEN! SUDDENLY! a sailing ship...... :o deeper LI fast! silent running!!

soopaman2 10-05-11 10:46 AM

The patrol of my life.
 
I am having a stellar run of luck in early 1940. Every torpedo I fire hits head on (or abeam). Every airplane is missing, then dying to my amazing gunners. I circled around and sunk a destroyer who was depth charging me for HOURS!

43k+ tonnage with 6 forward and 2 aft eels left.

My square is uneventful at the moment and plan on raiding French ports and shipping until I expell all ordinance. I will award extra medals to my gunners (deck and flak) as well to my torpedo officer. (thanks sh3 commander)

I hope I didn't jinx myself with this.:D I aint back at port yet:03:

I usually die horribly after I get happy about good patrols.:har:

JazzJR 10-05-11 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1761342)
I am having a stellar run of luck in early 1940. Every torpedo I fire hits head on (or abeam). Every airplane is missing, then dying to my amazing gunners. I circled around and sunk a destroyer who was depth charging me for HOURS!

You don't have GWX, do you? :D A Destroyer would sink you within a few seconds. But sadly "Alberich" doesn't work the way likeit did in real :(

soopaman2 10-05-11 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR (Post 1761346)
You don't have GWX, do you? :D A Destroyer would sink you within a few seconds. But sadly "Alberich" doesn't work the way likeit did in real :(

No sir, not on this run, I have 2 installations on my computer and know better to attempt destroyer hunting and deck gun games with GWX :haha:

Sailor Steve 10-05-11 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR (Post 1761346)
You don't have GWX, do you? :D A Destroyer would sink you within a few seconds. But sadly "Alberich" doesn't work the way likeit did in real :(

How well did it work in real life? Are there sufficient reports saying it worked? A great many u-boats were sunk in that period. Did they have it or not?

My point is that there is not enough evidence one way or the other to say for certain how effective it was. Or is there? I don't know, which is why I'm asking.

andwii 10-05-11 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR (Post 1761346)
You don't have GWX, do you? :D A Destroyer would sink you within a few seconds. But sadly "Alberich" doesn't work the way likeit did in real :(

lol not necessarily, on my last patrol I had about 6 of them DCin me for a whole night until morning, and I didnt take any damage.

JazzJR 10-05-11 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1761451)
My point is that there is not enough evidence one way or the other to say for certain how effective it was. Or is there? I don't know, which is why I'm asking.

Well i am sure you heard about U-480. It was never able to be detected by ASDIC becaus it absorbed the Frequency of the ASDIC, so they didn't were able to detect the submarine with it. There is a Documentation about U-480 also with some facts about it but it is on german without subtitles.
The british navy were able to catch a message of the germans where U-480 wrote "Alberich works!" but they didn't even know what Alberich was to this time. They first though it is some kind which makes the submarine more survival against Depth Charges and just after long time they recognized that it is some kind of stealth technic. U-480 was never found becaus even modern sonars couldn't detect it. It was found after a fishingboat lost its net at the submarine. Before no one knowed where U-480 sunk.

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Originally Posted by andwii (Post 1761571)
lol not necessarily, on my last patrol I had about 6 of them DCin me for a whole night until morning, and I didnt take any damage.

I am talking if you are surfaced and try to destroy the Destroyer with your Deckgun like in the odd movie U-571 :O:

Sailor Steve 10-05-11 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR (Post 1761631)
Well i am sure you heard about U-480. It was never able to be detected by ASDIC becaus it absorbed the Frequency of the ASDIC, so they didn't were able to detect the submarine with it.

No, I had not heard of it, which was why I asked. It was only tested on two u-boats that I could find, and it did seem to be quite effective. That said, this site says that the echo reduction was only about 15%.
http://www.uboataces.com/sonar-coating.shtml

On the other hand the Wiki article claims it reduced sonar effectiveness from an optimal range of 2000 meters to around 300 meters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_tile

And it's used on all modern subs, so it must have some advantages.

I'm only suggesting that it shouldn't make you invisible. Harder to find, sure, but no impossible. As to how the game works, I have no clue, never having been outside 1940.

JazzJR 10-06-11 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1761680)
No, I had not heard of it, which was why I asked. It was only tested on two u-boats that I could find, and it did seem to be quite effective. That said, this site says that the echo reduction was only about 15%.
http://www.uboataces.com/sonar-coating.shtml

On the other hand the Wiki article claims it reduced sonar effectiveness from an optimal range of 2000 meters to around 300 meters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_tile

And it's used on all modern subs, so it must have some advantages.

I'm only suggesting that it shouldn't make you invisible. Harder to find, sure, but no impossible. As to how the game works, I have no clue, never having been outside 1940.

Well in the video they say, a Destroyer was steaming right above U-480 and was using Asdic but didn't found them. Later in the war they found the frequency of the Alberich. I think since Silent Hunter 3 is a simulation it should also use the advantages, not only the disadvantages. Remember U-480 was found through luck. No one even knowed that a submarine sunk in this region.

Sailor Steve 10-06-11 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR (Post 1762101)
Well in the video they say, a Destroyer was steaming right above U-480 and was using Asdic but didn't found them. Later in the war they found the frequency of the Alberich. I think since Silent Hunter 3 is a simulation it should also use the advantages, not only the disadvantages. Remember U-480 was found through luck. No one even knowed that a submarine sunk in this region.

Destroyers sailed right above u-boats and didn't find them on many other occasions, and they didn't have it. This article raises the interesting question of how much U-480's escape had to do with the coating and how much was due to the skill (or lack thereof) of the asdic crew.
http://books.google.com/books?id=gDP...oating&f=false

You say you want realism, but how realistic is it to have alberich at all? How many u-boats were actually treated? How many escapes can be attributed to alberich? In the old statistician's saying, "Once is not a trend".


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