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08-24-11 08:04 PM |
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Originally Posted by Anthony W.
(Post 1735575)
I was talking to an F-105 pilot who told me that you could get the guidance confused (if you couldn't turn into it) by pitching up and down (can't remember specific G forces required) and as the missile tried to follow, the size of the missile's parabola kept increasing until it either ran out of fuel, hit the ground, or simply quit tracking.
I shall do further investigation to verify...
*I HAVE DIAGRAM* - editing to fit purpose...
PS: In the Wings Over series by Thirdwire, I can always defeat an AIM-9 or AA-2 Atoll with a sharp inside loop
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The Wings Over Vietnam sim? That is a poor example way too easy physics in that game(although I do like that game or the mod for it).I am basing this on a friend who is an intel officer in the USAF part of his job is to know the capabilities of all threats to our aircraft including SAM systems obviously the basic rule has not changed for a radar guided SAM the pilot must fly along the "beam" of the missile track and this depends on the flight pattern the missile is showing when gets the MK1 eyeball on it.He may need to bank hard into the beam or bank into and down towards the beam depending on the situation agnist more modern system the pilot may also need to barrel roll and then "counter the beam" the role is an attempt to confuse the missile the USAF actually has examples of every SAM radar system in use so they know them in and out.
The pilot you talked to sounds like he was a Wild Weasel pilot he probably flew an F-105F or G(though he first likely learned in the D model fighter/ bomber) the pattern you mention would make sense as that would be attractive to a SAM battery in reality he is reusing them into firing so that another WW 105 can acquire the radar and kill the SAM batteries radar after which the SAM is just a giant telephone pole.
Have you ever played Falcon 4.0? That game has fairly realistic physics and AI including SAM guidance and evasion.I imagine DCS A-10 does as well as in DCS Black Shark the missiles seemed pretty hard to evade and they where believable in LOCK ON Flaming Cliffs which the DCS games use the same engine more or less.
TLAM I have done exactly what you mention in WOE once in an A-10 I had 4 MiG-21s on me so I just got very low (which causes ground clutter) and kept turning they fired missile after missile and none came even close. |
