Well I'll tell Tchocky, my nephew is gay. He and his partner celebrated the 4th of July on my deck with the rest of our family. Do I agree with this lifestyle? No. I can tolerate, accept and be open-minded. He is after all my nephew. He gets my full support in everything. He certainly does not agree with everyones lifestyle either. However, like me, he accepts and tolerates. Truth be told, he is a productive member of society and that is the bottom line.

The men and women in the military...they are productive soldiers and that is the bottom line.

Retention in an all volunteer force is a big issue. You start telling straights that they have to bunk and shower with gays then that just might affect their decision to enlist.

Not enough volunteers and the draft would have to be re-instituted to fulfill staffing requirements.

I've heard muslims are dangerous. And socialists too. I sure hope no honest soldier ever has to serve with any of them either. You never know what when they start praying in the middle of a fight or try to make your weapon and ammunition their common property.

well, there are about a billion things in the military which might put off volunteers: uncomfy beds, no playstation for everybody, no good night kisses from mama...:03:

You can't make it right for everybody - when you enlist you buy the whole package. And if someone does not believe in core values like equality - well maybe they chose the wrong country's forces to enlist to.

Or at least the package the recruiter sells ya! :03:

Exactly what I have been thinking since page 1. Call me a victim of stereotypes (yeah, like I was the first one in this thread), but especially in this case it sounds silly (is that a queer word? OK, amusing then) to talk about the armed forces and then make freedom a freedom to be like everyone else.

"You are all different!"
"Yes! We are all different!"
"I'm not..."
"Hush!"

Says the guy whose nations equal opportunity volunteer army has like 10 people in it.

Like I said our military staffing requirements will be met one way or the other, either with volunteers or draftees.

a solution could be the re-introduction of the hair-nets: :O:

http://einestages.spiegel.de/hund-im...borderless.jpg

http://einestages.spiegel.de/hund-im...borderless.jpg

Yep and if Homosexuals can't serve then everybody who doesn't want to fight will just make out with a guy in front of the person trying to enforce the draft.

Could you imagine how an old Wehrmacht Feldwebel would react to this guy? :DL

Good. Because I wouldn't want to depend on anyone, gay or straight, who doesn't want to serve.

That's a girl, I would say.. Looks almost like Steffi Graf during DDR (GDR) times. :hmmm:

No kidding, that is a picture of Steffi Graf, don't you think. Are you from Eastern Germany btw?
I am from Westphalia.

Same here, but moved to the US couple of years ago.
Originally from the Laengste Thecke der Welt.. :Kaleun_Cheers: