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Hottentot 06-29-11 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by joea (Post 1693851)
A great deal of ignorance on this thread. :down:

Fortunately not anymore.

Gerald 06-29-11 09:03 AM

As in many cases, measures too little too late, and the Greeks have been aware of this long time.... and that there would come a day when they are forced to produce "balls" but they are dependent on other countries within the EU, in order to continue the journey.

STEED 06-29-11 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1693602)
Today Greece...perhaps tomorrow the UK :o

Well that be for the PC riot police using feather dusters and giving away free holidays if they stop rioting. :haha:

Jimbuna 06-29-11 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1693901)
Well that be for the PC riot police using feather dusters and giving away free holidays if they stop rioting. :haha:

LOL :DL

sidslotm 06-29-11 12:42 PM

I would love to able to give someone else's money away, how cool is that, just think of the fun you could have stopping folks in the street and giving them a shed load of dosh.

mookiemookie 06-29-11 01:08 PM

Follow the money...who's being bailed out?

The creditors of the Greeks. Not the Greeks themselves. The German, French, Japanese, U.S. banks...not the Greek on the street.

I'd be pissed too.

Gerald 06-29-11 01:22 PM

Throughout the EU, has been easier on the wallet .... and then Portugal and Spain are in trouble, it sucks :doh:

STEED 06-29-11 05:54 PM

Trying to plug holes in a bucket will not work, the bottom is rusty and about to give way.

Jimbuna 06-29-11 06:09 PM

Not forgetting the strike in the UK tomorrow.

STEED 06-29-11 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1694325)
Not forgetting the strike in the UK tomorrow.

Love the way the media has reported this in such a way the country will grind to a stop and fall off a cliff! What a bunch of tarts that work in the news.

Gerald 06-30-11 04:00 AM

Greece crisis: Greek MPs face second austerity vote
 
Clashes in Athens continue overnight with tear gas and smoke from fires filling the city centre.

Greece's parliament is to hold a second vote on its austerity programme, which it needs to implement to secure the country further financial support.

The vote is about putting into practice the tax hikes, pay cuts, privatisations and public sector redundancies approved in principle on Wednesday.

The vote was a retreat from the "grave scenario of default", the EU said.

Public reaction has been very hostile, and the debate has been accompanied by strikes and violent protest.

Clashes continued on Syntagma (Constitution) Square outside parliament overnight, as police fired tear gas at stone-throwing youths.

Protesters set fire to a post office in the finance ministry building, on another part of the square.

But Athenian street cleaning crews have now come out in force removing debris from two days of battles in the square, says the BBC's Malcolm Brabant in Athens.

Police have restricted access to the city centre to prevent demonstrators from obstructing members of parliament heading to vote on the new law.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13970916


Note: Update Record, 30 June 2011 Last updated at 08:54 GMT

joea 06-30-11 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1693895)
As in many cases, measures too little too late, and the Greeks have been aware of this long time.... and that there would come a day when they are forced to produce "balls" but they are dependent on other countries within the EU, in order to continue the journey.

What "balls"? I know many including relations, who work long hours (in the private sector) or 2 or more jobs - like the lazy macho southerners they are - while the government was wasting money and cooking the books to join the Euro. :nope:

Before any of you arrogant **** from "other" parts of Europe or North America (yes including Canada) pipe up, how often have I heard that the political elites in other countries, even in supposed democracies have dragged other nations in directions like the headlong rush into the Euro some of you claim are leading to ruin in spite of the "will of the people". In other words spitting out ethnic stereotypes is insulting and obscuring the real reasons for the crisis. :x:down:

Yes I am a Canadian of Greek origin so perhaps a little bias. I am angry at the crisis and also the reactions to it-while I am angry at some stuff I have read here I almost lost some friends on another forum over this issue so I better not say anymore.

Gerald 06-30-11 05:14 AM

And what do you think the main reason why the country finds itself in this situation, for it can hardly have been a novelty for you, even if you do not live in the country that there have been financial problems like other countries in Europe, or in the world as a whole.

Jimbuna 06-30-11 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1694335)
Love the way the media has reported this in such a way the country will grind to a stop and fall off a cliff! What a bunch of tarts that work in the news.

I doubt there are enough people who can afford to take a day off to have any real major impact.

Hottentot 06-30-11 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joea (Post 1694548)
Before any of you arrogant **** from "other" parts of Europe or North America (yes including Canada) pipe up

As a tax payer from "other part of Europe" the matter concerns me. Therefore I believe I am allowed to have an opinion. That doesn't make me arrogant.

I know that, along others, my country has loaned money to Greece.
I know that we are likely going to loan more money to Greece.
I know my country too has problems that could use the money and that money doesn't grow on the trees.
I know what I have and haven't seen and heard on this matter.
I know my opinion regarding the loaning and helping has changed based on that.

So I am asking myself: should we support Greece and why? Because they are part of Europe? Because we get into trouble if we don't? Because it's the right thing to do? Because there is going to be improvement and they are going to pay us back with interests? I have been forced to ask and I haven't found a proper answer.

Does that mean I hate Greece or the Greeks? Hardly. I hate idiots. What I see in the media is idiotic behaviour, so that makes me dislike the news I read, but not the entire people. But it also makes my opinion of supporting these same people more negative.

Does that make me arrogant? I can't see how.
Does that make me ignorant? Perhaps.
Does barging into a thread and basically calling everyone else idiots help me to change it? No, not really.

So educate me. Help me get rid of my ignorance. Help me see the other side of the fence. I don't speak Insult, so try Reason instead. Because I have seen you write in other threads, I know you are reasonable and therefore assume that you have better motive to participate in a thread than to rant and make yourself look childish. I suppose I am right?


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