Isn't it SIR YES SIR!!! :hmmm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts

:D

I could care less either way. Its all to do about nothing really. Sheriff Joe has a system that works. I have friends who have stayed in his tent city (DUI's) and they are determined that they are not going back. Love him or hate him his system works and many of his prior convictions are now his fans.

He gets re-elected easily every time it comes up. He's tough but effective.

and that my friend is probably why the open attacks on his tactics.

I want to clarify that I'm not "openly attacking" his methods unless they undermine principle of "innocent until otherwise proven". I don't care how he handles his job as long as that principle is not endangered.

Wasn't there something recently about his little county patch having greater increasing crime rates than his other Arizona neighbours?
That would suggest that he is ineffective and his past re election is more to do with plain populism than real achievements.
It will be interesting to see if his standing in the polls will continue to fall away in the run up to his next election as reality cuts through the gimmicks he uses


The Miranda is solely an item to deal with a small part of two aspects of the suspects rights.
So to sum up someones rights as the reading of one tiny detail is ludicrous AVG and August is correct.

The difference is, only a few people will be called in to see the line up or a mugshot book, and only the cops (initially) have access to the fingerprints. This is completely different from yelling from the roof top "Hey, come and look at who we think is guilty!" as this idiot is doing.

Way, way too many people still think that cops are somehow incapable of error, and that if you've been arrested, you must have done SOMETHING wrong. By advertising it in this foolish way, he is making it harder for the accused to get a fair trial.

Disgusting. Try to explain the whole "innocent-till-proven-guilty" thing to the employer, who fires their employee when they google the name and find them on a website like this.

Sadly, this is nothing new: shastamugshots is another site, made by sad excuses for human beings who charge (convicted) people a sum to take their shot off the web and have ads for bail bonds on their page at the same time....
As an innocent you only have the chance to wait untill the charges are dismissed or pay them off. Nice blackmailing scheme! :nope:

No, the open attacks on him are because he makes a mockery of his office. He's a publicity hound. He does stupid stuff like this, and raiding an unarmed cockfighting suspect's home with Steven Seagal in a tank for a TV show. How many taxpayer dollars were spent bulldozing a house in order to confiscate some chickens and stroke Arpaio's ego?

This perverse neo-fascist obsession with his police state actions and "git dem bad guys!" as entertainment is disgusting. Arpaio is a pig in every sense of the word.

But if you want to know how I really feel about it, just ask. :lol:

To whom? If it disgusting why is he continually elected back in?

Who's obsession...thos neo-fascist! Really, who?

I'm guessing they like pork where he lives because he still holds the office...

I voted for him and I'll vote again. :up:

Spin goes both ways.

http://www.davickservices.com/sherif...al_shelter.htm

Your article comes from the phoenix new times, a free magazine that can only be described as the most openly pro illegal immigration, anti gun, anti Republican, Anti Conservative anti American and pro communist tripe. I pick that magazine up every time I see it! After all why waist free toilet paper?

Nice bit of hyperbole ya did there, but I didn't catch where you deny that it happened.

I can neither confirm nor deny that it happened as I don't know and I wasn't there. I know his record on animal rights is stellar. I know the source of your argument is less than honest in its reporting. That is what I do know.

Now for the sake of argument lets say it did happen as reported and is fact.
What were the consequences? What were the circumstances?

I can show you a video of a Marine throwing a puppy off a cliff in Iraq, should he commandant of the Marine Corps be held accountable?

What if the dog was being aggressive? What if they were using the fire extinguisher to defend themselves from an unknown animal and it got scared by it and fled back into the fire? Pit bulls are seen as aggressive and unpredictable, what if it was a large pit? What if the Sheriffs who were reponsible for the botched opperation were fired? What if they went in on bad intel and supposed their were 300 armed spartan warriors inside ready to dig a pit and kick people in?

My point is that life has a lot of variables and its easy to spin any story these days. An officer shoots an aggressive pack of dogs attacking an elderly woman and next thing you know the stories out that somebody's loving cherished family pet was brutally murdered for helping the old lady across the street!

As it seems that some people are not worried about "innocent until otherwise proven" principle (correct me if I'm wrong) I think it's time to see if we find volunteers for following little experiment.

1. volunteer moves to area under responsibility of Maricopa County Sheriff's Office
2. we put on a word that that said person is for example (or something equally bad and as credible as possible) violent child molester, armed and dangerous.
3. we make sure press hear about this too
4. we make sure volunteers mugshot gets enough votes to get to frontpage
5. after our volunteer is found not guilty we see what he thinks about experience. Is it nice to have your face connected to child abuse or not?

Ofcourse this is likely illegal and therefore never happens.