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Madox58 04-07-11 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1638099)
I am reminded of the headline from the Star Bulletin.

http://archives.starbulletin.com/200.../flanagan.html

Atomic Bombers Upset Over Enola Homosexual Exhibit"

DOH! :D

If the Enola Homosexual dropped it's load what type sickness would you suffer?
:hmmm:

And did anyone on the Enola Homosexual puff on a fag during the flight?
:o

DarkFish 04-07-11 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1638098)
I appreciate what you wrote. Since Darkfish has no idea who I am or what I do, his opinions are not based on fact but on emotions.

Darkfish, you can apply any label you wish if it makes you feel superior.

However, I think we should agree to disagree so we don't further hijack this thread.

I thought you were simply ranting against gays. It seems I was wrong, and I apologize for that, and take back the last part of my comment.

The first part still stands however. I still think you shouldn't immediately label their conclusion false. They are archaeologists and know much more about that particular culture than any of us ever will, and I'd expect them to know perfectly well how bodies were usually buried back then. Which, according to them, is not in this way. That convinced me pretty much that there's something unusual with this body. If this "something unusual" is indeed that he's gay, I don't know and nobody ever will. It may very well be that he was having some special function in his tribe or something. But it also may very well be that he simply was gay, or transvestite. Which would be a good explanation.

GoldenRivet 04-07-11 08:54 PM

Intolerance for homosexuality is one of the great failings of conservatives.

The religious right has its claws too deeply embedded into conservative politics.

I dont mind gays... its nice to have someone buy me drinks for a change. LOL

once, some dude purchased about 4 or 5 rounds of drinks for my friend and I - We figured he was some rich show off with good conversational skills that talked too damned much.

he was mighty disappointed when i turned down his offer to go to his place.

Taking note of the low count of women in the bar, and adding what had just happend to the equation... i asked the cute little waitress;

"excuse me, miss... is this a gay bar?"

she smiled knowingly, and in a deep he-man voice said "You bet sweety!"

My friend and I left and went to hooters. after we had some drinks and finished our meal, we thought "you know... we should have stayed there. we had 5 rounds and didnt spend a dime."





can't win for losin'




tonight, I'll drink to you, probably gay caveman.:up:

Gargamel 04-07-11 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1638007)
Maybe you're both right. The people who buried him just wanted to **** with later archeologists. "Hey, let's bury this guy facing the other side" - "Yes, and let's add some pottery!" - "Man, I'm laughing my arse off when I imagine the dumb faces of the people who will dig him out in the future!" - "And just imagine the discussion in submarine simulation forums!" :rotfl2:

Speaking of duping archeologists... there's a really great sci fi piece I read many many years ago, don't remember it exactly now, but basically alien archeologists come to a deserted earth, and find, in every building, these little shrines. They have a bowl of sacramental water in them, with a shelf behind to place idols. When the humans would do their daily prayers to this water God, they would pull a lever and exchange the water. This must have been a very import deity in their lives, as every building had at least one, and most buildings had multiples. It was a very private ritual too, as there was usually only room for one person per shrine.


Archeology is all in the context, and sometimes they just get it wrong.

I have no idea on this one though.......

Madox58 04-07-11 10:21 PM

I see a new insurance add in the makeing!
So easy even a Oglagremph Cave Man can do it.
:haha:

Bakkels 04-08-11 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1638133)
Speaking of duping archeologists... there's a really great sci fi piece I read many many years ago, don't remember it exactly now, but basically alien archeologists come to a deserted earth, and find, in every building, these little shrines. They have a bowl of sacramental water in them, with a shelf behind to place idols. When the humans would do their daily prayers to this water God, they would pull a lever and exchange the water. This must have been a very import deity in their lives, as every building had at least one, and most buildings had multiples. It was a very private ritual too, as there was usually only room for one person per shrine.


Archeology is all in the context, and sometimes they just get it wrong.

I have no idea on this one though.......

Ha! That's brilliant. :yeah:

UnderseaLcpl 04-08-11 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1638120)
Intolerance for homosexuality is one of the great failings of conservatives.

The religious right has its claws too deeply embedded into conservative politics.

I agree. Homosexuality is not a choice, save where one joins the Navy or the Army or the Air Force.:O:

Seriously, though, it's not usually a choice. We don't fully understand human development or psychology, but evidence suggests that testosterone deficiencies in fetuses may lead to homosexuality. Other evidence suggests that genetic defects that lead to hormonal imbalance in early childhood leads to homosexuality, at least for males.

And that's not considering the role that human genetics play in social development and the development itself. People are genetically engineered to be people, which is to say that they are engineered to make more people. Who is to say that this selection pressure might not result in a person who is sexually confused because they can't establish a working heterosexual relationship? Who knows?

Intolerance of homosexuality is indeed one of the great failings of conservatives, and the religious, and I wish we would drop it. We don't have the time or the reason or the political clout to carry on with this nonsense. It just weakens our platform.

Platapus 04-08-11 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1638110)
I thought you were simply ranting against gays. It seems I was wrong, and I apologize for that, and take back the last part of my comment.

Fair enough /shake

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That convinced me pretty much that there's something unusual with this body. If this "something unusual" is indeed that he's gay, I don't know and nobody ever will.
I think we are actually in agreement on this issue. :yeah:

Betonov 04-08-11 09:30 AM

Nah, the article doesn't convince me. Gay simply by lying on the wrong side in grave.
But I don't doubt there were gays back then. The more I read history the more I have a feeling that the three abrahamic religions are the only ones intolerable of gays (or anyone different for any other reason).
Animals are mostly bisexual. I've seen a cow hump a cow, a rooster hump a rooster and my dog hump anything regarding of gender.

Bakkels 04-08-11 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1638454)
...and my dog hump anything regarding of gender.

That's actually how dogs procreate; they hump anything they run into, and once or twice in their lifetime they get lucky and hump another dog. A little loophole in natural selection.

Betonov 04-08-11 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1638459)
That's actually how dogs procreate; they hump anything they run into, and once or twice in their lifetime they get lucky and hump another dog. A little loophole in natural selection.

Some humans are the same, certain males hump anything they come across and certain females spread their legs to anything they come across

Bilge_Rat 04-08-11 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1638120)
once, some dude purchased about 4 or 5 rounds of drinks for my friend and I - We figured he was some rich show off with good conversational skills that talked too damned much.

he was mighty disappointed when i turned down his offer to go to his place.

Taking note of the low count of women in the bar, and adding what had just happend to the equation... i asked the cute little waitress;

"excuse me, miss... is this a gay bar?"

she smiled knowingly, and in a deep he-man voice said "You bet sweety!"

My friend and I left and went to hooters. after we had some drinks and finished our meal, we thought "you know... we should have stayed there. we had 5 rounds and didnt spend a dime."



I have a better story which is 100% true. In the early 80s, I was single one summer and hung around with a girl and her friend who was an outragiously gay guy, but with a wicked sense of humour. He was part of an amateur theatre group.

One weekend he was planning a weekend camping trip and asked me to come along since I had all the camping equipment and had been camping since I was a little kid. We would be going with two of his friends from the theatre group, a man and a woman. I had met his friend before and knew he was also gay. I had never met the woman.

So friday we drive to her house to pick her up (Her name was Marie) and meet her husband! He helps us pack and wishes us a good weekend. I figured that since the other two guys were gay, he must have figured I was gay as well.

Along the way out of town, I find out that Marie had just found out that week, that her husband was having an affair and she wanted to take off for the weekend.

So we set up the tent, just one big one for all of us, and spend the evening drinking and talking around the campfire and eventually retire to the tent, me and Marie last.

In the tent, Marie and I were lying next to one another and next thing I knew we were tearing each other's clothes off. I dont know if the guys heard, but they never mentioned it. I saw Marie on and off for the rest of the summer. Last I heard, she had patched things up with her husband.

Since that summer, my philosophy has always been: thank god for Gay guys! :arrgh!:

Hottentot 04-08-11 09:58 AM

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That's actually how dogs procreate; they hump anything they run into, and once or twice in their lifetime they get lucky and hump another dog. A little loophole in natural selection.
Dog humping another dog is a sign of dominance in addition to occasionally procreating. What we rarely observe in those situations (for obvious reasons) is that while they do that, they also get to put their front paws on the top of the other. And for them that means superiority. Try it with a submissive dog: put your hands on the top of its back, push lightly and it's very likely to show some sign of submission (such as lowering its neck or going to the ground).

Some dogs try to show such dominance over other species too. I know a family where the dog considers two people to be above it, but one below it. And sure enough, it always tries to hump the person below it in the hierarchy.

As for procreating, they know what they are doing and when to do it by scent. Ever had a young male dog? Then you probably know. A single female that emits the "hump me" scent can make literally all the males around it mad. That's why in the kennel I occasionally work for we separate them from the rest of the dogs as soon as we notice the signs of that time in their cages, such as blood drops on the floor.

Platapus 04-08-11 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1638459)
That's actually how dogs procreate; they hump anything they run into, and once or twice in their lifetime they get lucky and hump another dog. A little loophole in natural selection.

:nope:

Than how do you explain female dogs humping male dogs? Or male dogs humping male dogs? Or sexually immature puppies humping?

Humping is not a sexual action for dogs, although it resembles the mating action. Humping can be an action of domination. My female Lab humps my male lab because the female is the dominant dog in the house. It can also be a way a dog deals with built up excitement (non-sexual). Puppies in the same litter will often trade-off humping during play.

In some cases, the dog is humping because the owners have trained it to hump. The owners, when seeing their cute little puppy hump, laugh and show attention to the puppy. This attention from the owners, can positively reinforce, to the puppy, that humping is a trick that the owners like. Humping can be simply a habit to some dogs. They do it because they have done it in the past.

There are many reasons dogs hump.

Bakkels 04-08-11 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1638481)
:nope:

Than how do you explain female dogs humping male dogs? Or male dogs humping male dogs? Or sexually immature puppies humping?

Humping is not a sexual action for dogs, although it resembles the mating action. Humping can be an action of domination. My female Lab humps my male lab because the female is the dominant dog in the house. It can also be a way a dog deals with built up excitement (non-sexual). Puppies in the same litter will often trade-off humping during play.

In some cases, the dog is humping because the owners have trained it to hump. The owners, when seeing their cute little puppy hump, laugh and show attention to the puppy. This attention from the owners, can positively reinforce, to the puppy, that humping is a trick that the owners like. Humping can be simply a habit to some dogs. They do it because they have done it in the past.

There are many reasons dogs hump.

Dog-owner are you? Relax, I was just kidding. I know they do the humping thing to show dominance. Actually I've been around dogs all my life, and I love them. My post was in no way meant to be taken serious :03:

Actually, this brings up a 'nice' memory. My parents have always owned Golden Retrievers, and one time while we were on vacation (I was about 9 or 10 at the time) I was lying in the grass reading something when all of a sudden I feel something jumping on my back and humping me. That was our dog, and unfortunately my dad was just taking pictures of the area...


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