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Hottentot 03-26-11 12:57 PM

Ok, since we apparently stole the topic (har har har), I must ask anyone with a proper railway system to own up now and tell the rest of us how do you do it. Because as a student I need to use ours quite often and I'm honestly starting to get tired of it.

Penguin 03-28-11 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1628286)
or ours

Ok, got me, never visited Slovenia, but I have a couple of croatian friends. They never told me bad experiences about the slovenian rail when they travel through your country - but it's not that we especially talk about railroads when we talk about holidays ;)


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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1628324)
Ok, since we apparently stole the topic (har har har), I must ask anyone with a proper railway system to own up now and tell the rest of us how do you do it. Because as a student I need to use ours quite often and I'm honestly starting to get tired of it.

lol, we stole a topic about stealing to turn it into talking how railroad companies in our countries steal our time and sanity :D

So it may be that no one answers because this a case of the grass is always greener elsewhere, but I've seen examples of working railroads, there are some essential things:

- being able to board a train without buying a ticket in advance
- being treated like a customer not a cumbersome obstacle, especially when something goes wrong, like delays, etc.
- getting assistance if you don't know your way around (in terms of geography, language)
- prices and travel times that are an alternative to using a car

Hottentot 03-28-11 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629378)
So it may be that no one answers because this a case of the grass is always greener elsewhere

Hmm, I was actually thinking it's very appropriate that no one answered to that question. It sort of underlined the point.

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629378)
- being able to board a train without buying a ticket in advance

Man, you're picky. I would be happy to be able to board a train in the first place to have some use for the ticket I bought. It's not just one or two times that I have observed that our stations are lacking something. Namely trains, that for some reason are always stuck in the middle of nowhere due to technical problems.

Though seriously speaking I'm little surprised to read that. Here you can board a train and buy ticket in there. There they accept only cash, which some people find inconvenient, but nevertheless. If you could have bought the ticket in the station, there is some sort of extra charge, but it's not that much.

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629378)
- being treated like a customer not a cumbersome obstacle, especially when something goes wrong, like delays, etc.

Well yes, I would appreciate it if someone told me before and not after waiting an hour in the middle of nowhere that the train is having some minor problems. That is in those rare events that I can get into a train in the first place, of course. Maybe they think I should be grateful for that and shut up.

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629378)
- getting assistance if you don't know your way around (in terms of geography, language)

I once ran a test and tried to travel from place A to place B speaking only English. Worked surprisingly well. Not that I was treated as anything else than obstacle despite of that, but at least it proved that I can be treated as an obstacle in many different languages. Progress!

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629378)
- prices and travel times that are an alternative to using a car

And every time we talk about railways in here, someone will inevitably say that it's so much cheaper to use trains in Germany or anywhere else for that matter.

TarJak 03-28-11 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1628324)
Ok, since we apparently stole the topic (har har har), I must ask anyone with a proper railway system to own up now and tell the rest of us how do you do it. Because as a student I need to use ours quite often and I'm honestly starting to get tired of it.

Don't look downunder for the answer. Our's is a POS!:damn:

Penguin 03-28-11 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1629415)
Though seriously speaking I'm little surprised to read that. Here you can board a train and buy ticket in there. There they accept only cash, which some people find inconvenient, but nevertheless. If you could have bought the ticket in the station, there is some sort of extra charge, but it's not that much.

It used to be the same here, but now you are regarded as a freerider when you walk onto a train with no ricket . You need a lot of talking skills to convince the personal that you are not an evil thieving criminal who wants to bring down the german railways, but a person in a hurry.

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1629415)
I once ran a test and tried to travel from place A to place B speaking only English. Worked surprisingly well. Not that I was treated as anything else than obstacle despite of that, but at least it proved that I can be treated as an obstacle in many different languages. Progress!

:har: At least they treat everyone with the same hostility!


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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1629415)
And every time we talk about railways in here, someone will inevitably say that it's so much cheaper to use trains in Germany or anywhere else for that matter.

The same when we talk about our education system here - someone will always mention the nordic countries, especially Finland and Sweden.

For compaprision (just checked it):
One way tickets:
Helsinki - Oulu 72.7 €
Hannover - München (slightly shorter): 119€ :o

Hottentot 03-28-11 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629474)
The same when we talk about our education system here - someone will always mention the nordic countries, especially Finland and Sweden.

For compaprision (just checked it):
One way tickets:
Helsinki - Oulu 72.7 €
Hannover - München (slightly shorter): 119€ :o

Another myth busted then? Figures. I need to bring this comparison up next time someone goes all glass-eyed about how wonderful everything is everywhere else than in Finland.

Now don't get me started on the education too :haha:.
(It actually works, it's actually good, I'm very happy with it especially having compared it substantially with several people living in various countries. But...)

Betonov 03-28-11 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629378)
Ok, got me, never visited Slovenia, but I have a couple of croatian friends. They never told me bad experiences about the slovenian rail when they travel through your country - but it's not that we especially talk about railroads when we talk about holidays ;)

I think they're having the same problem. Croatians are more laid back than us (but not as laid back as the greeks). It takes a one hour delay in croatia to make a croat as nervous as a slovene gets after a half hour delay.

Unless your friends are from Dalmacija region, a one day delay wouldnt upset those people :DL

Penguin 03-28-11 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1629584)
Another myth busted then? Figures. I need to bring this comparison up next time someone goes all glass-eyed about how wonderful everything is everywhere else than in Finland.

Actually I thought that mocking their own country is a sport that all Finns like to practice and is a in fact an expression of the deep and weird love they have for their land. ;)

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1629755)
I think they're having the same problem. Croatians are more laid back than us (but not as laid back as the greeks). It takes a one hour delay in croatia to make a croat as nervous as a slovene gets after a half hour delay.

:DL
Really? :o seems like I only know strange people, laid back in a way, but sometimes quite hot-blooded - could also have something to do with the noisy music we listen to :haha: actually one of my friends cemented (betonized;)) the prejudice in his home village that all german-croats are crazy mofos. I like my friends! :DL

(I have the feeling that this now becomes a country stereotype thread :DL)

Betonov 03-28-11 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629844)
:DL
Really? :o seems like I only know strange people, laid back in a way, but sometimes quite hot-blooded - could also have something to do with the noisy music we listen to :haha: actually one of my friends cemented (betonized;)) the prejudice in his home village that all german-croats are crazy mofos. I like my friends! :DL

(I have the feeling that this now becomes a country stereotype thread :DL)

usualy more laid back people are more hot-blooded, the not so laid back people don't have time for being hot-blooded :DL

Btw, off topic, the plus side of having the last name BETON is, you keep poping up in international forums as well, in any country that uses concrete :D

Jimbuna 03-28-11 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1629852)
usualy more laid back people are more hot-blooded, the not so laid back people don't have time for being hot-blooded :DL

Btw, off topic, the plus side of having the last name BETON is, you keep poping up in international forums as well, in any country that uses concrete :D

Looks like wew have all lost sight of the price of fish :o

Hottentot 03-29-11 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1629844)
Actually I thought that mocking their own country is a sport that all Finns like to practice and is a in fact an expression of the deep and weird love they have for their land. ;)

Sure it is. The same way as we like to express our weird love for other people by getting drunk together and then stabbing them with the first pointy thing that we can find. I mean, you can't be real friends with anyone unless you have at least once beaten the stuff out of each other or at the very least threatened to do that. Some people just like to take it a step further.

Betonov 03-29-11 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1630230)
Sure it is. The same way as we like to express our weird love for other people by getting drunk together and then stabbing them with the first pointy thing that we can find. I mean, you can't be real friends with anyone unless you have at least once beaten the stuff out of each other or at the very least threatened to do that. Some people just like to take it a step further.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs51/f/20...e_by_humon.jpg

For being known as a sado-mazohist, when can I come over :DL

Hottentot 03-29-11 06:47 AM

I resent that comic. The action was completely justified and not even pre-emptive: the moron talked too much, and in sauna no less. The others didn't do anything about it, so obviously they we collaborators.

We are not violent people. And if you question this claim, I will kill you very slowly.

(In before the lock :D)


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