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Growler 03-09-11 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 1615970)
Never played the sequel, but I'll still fire up the original from time to time. Would Mighty Eighth run on Vista, or Dosbox? I really miss the old Microprose games, and their manuals.

Man, razark, you said it. MPS used to publish manuals that could stand on their own as books on whatever subject the game was about. I LOVED that about them. I still have a copy of the Historical Documentary they included with Across the Rhine and glance through it from time to time. Man, I miss those days sometimes.

As to whether it'd run on Vista/DOSBox, I'd wager yes, but that it'd probably require some tweaks. Dunno for sure; last system I had that ran Mighty Eighth out of the box is an old XP desktop.

Freiwillige 03-09-11 10:16 PM

You know why I am on the subject here is another thing about military simulations that bothers me. Death or lack there of.

I mean you can play FPS even military ones and see the gore that war represents. But as soon as you add a Tank or aircraft or any vehicle they dumb it down and take the human element out of it. Many like that idea.

I would like to see the brutality of war represented as realistically as FPS sims.

I want to see that T-34 I just put a 75mm shell through have the survivors clamoring out and on fire. When I put an explosive shell into a ditch with troops I want to be sickened by the brutality as limbs go flying.

Not because I love death and gore but because death and gore are the reality of war. Why is it okay to show somebody head come apart when your a sniper in Call of duty but not okay to see some enemy tank commander slump over when he gets shot?

Just saying.

TLAM Strike 03-09-11 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige (Post 1616146)
You know why I am on the subject here is another thing about military simulations that bothers me. Death or lack there of.

I mean you can play FPS even military ones and see the gore that war represents. But as soon as you add a Tank or aircraft or any vehicle they dumb it down and take the human element out of it. Many like that idea.

I would like to see the brutality of war represented as realistically as FPS sims.

I want to see that T-34 I just put a 75mm shell through have the survivors clamoring out and on fire. When I put an explosive shell into a ditch with troops I want to be sickened by the brutality as limbs go flying.

Not because I love death and gore but because death and gore are the reality of war. Why is it okay to show somebody head come apart when your a sniper in Call of duty but not okay to see some enemy tank commander slump over when he gets shot?

Just saying.

I agree. That was the kind of thing I liked in CoD2 (the highest # CoD I've played). On the first level I shot a German with my SMG and if it was CoD 1 he would be dead so I started to run past him, then I notice he was still moving and had pulled out a pistol. :o

It freaked me out so much I fired about 20 rounds in to the guy. :haha:

Or in Close Combat: first to fight. It had one of the best gameplay mechanics I've every seen... you take prisoners. Yea the enemy doesn't fight to the death, they will run away, try to hide or give up. If you had an enemy cornered you can yell "Drop you weapon" and some times they will, you then can order one of your fire team members to secure him or do it your self. Some times they will try and pull a pistol on you so you better have one of your buddies cover him.

yubba 03-10-11 09:34 AM

You will want too go to this site before it is gone, http://www.ww2fighters.org/.http://www.ww2fighters.org/images/p5...ixgunWhore.jpg

Feuer Frei! 03-10-11 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1616428)
You will want too go to this site before it is gone, spent last month with it sure turned that game around, http://www.ww2fighters.org/

Thanks for the link :up:
However, i couldn't help but burst out laughing at this:
http://i54.tinypic.com/11c9mdz.jpg

"RECOVERING AXIS SOLDIERS" :D

yubba 03-10-11 10:41 AM

http://www.ww2fighters.org/images/ve...lowMeThumb.jpg

MaddogK 03-10-11 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1616170)
I agree. That was the kind of thing I liked in CoD2 (the highest # CoD I've played). On the first level I shot a German with my SMG and if it was CoD 1 he would be dead so I started to run past him, then I notice he was still moving and had pulled out a pistol. :o

It freaked me out so much I fired about 20 rounds in to the guy. :haha:

Or in Close Combat: first to fight. It had one of the best gameplay mechanics I've every seen... you take prisoners. Yea the enemy doesn't fight to the death, they will run away, try to hide or give up. If you had an enemy cornered you can yell "Drop you weapon" and some times they will, you then can order one of your fire team members to secure him or do it your self. Some times they will try and pull a pistol on you so you better have one of your buddies cover him.

I still get the willy's when I hear the dogs barking, got ripped to shreds too many times by dogs in COD, the wife can't watch me play that game as she's a dog lover and hates to see me shoot them.

Theres a sequence in COD where you have to drive this tank to a bridge, and IIRC the enemy tanks try to stop you. When (and if) you hit them just right their tank bursts into flames and the crew comes out of the hatch screaming and running away. I sure hated to gun them down while they retreated, but such is war.

AVGWarhawk 03-10-11 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 1615970)
Never played the sequel, but I'll still fire up the original from time to time. Would Mighty Eighth run on Vista, or Dosbox? I really miss the old Microprose games, and their manuals.


B-17 Mighty Eight runs on Vista. :03:

razark 03-10-11 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1616533)
B-17 Mighty Eight runs on Vista. :03:

Well, I might just have to look into that.

STEED 03-11-11 12:02 PM

I stopped at SH4 and have no plans to buy anymore, unless games manufactures like to slip me £250,000 and I maybe tempted. :D

Wolfehunter 03-13-11 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rilder (Post 1615398)
Exactly, wave a shiny bauble in front of the average consumer and boom instant best seller.:nope:


There are still good dev teams out there though, you just have to ignore all the mainstream games and money grubbing publishers.:yep:

This is correct.

All the big name games suck now. You have to look harder for more lesser known names. To find quality gameplay.

It really hasn't changed much. We're just used to those big names that in the past 80s or 90s made there big game.. Then they crumbled.

You can still find parties working on new inventive games. Who knows they may be the next big name. :up:

PC games are always the underdogs. What changes is those big names.. Not the games.


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