ooooo ahhh that made me laugh :rotfl2:

1# Mod that extends Campaign

2#Privateer is working on a modding utility

3# TDW implemented this ;)

4# Define scripted gameplay elements? How is it any different from the scripted elements in 3 & 4

5# Similar to other games... Also, there is a Light Campaign Mod which limits the crazy objectives.. Also, if they bother you so much. Ignore them!

6#Contradictory.. :timeout: Also, how is walking around your sub, seeing things in 3d happen in front of you.. not immersive :hmmm:

7#Moddable, if you're running vanilla SH5 its your problem, same as if you were running vanilla Sh3 or 4.

#8 Characters are actually rendered a lot better then 3 and 4 (SH4 with the "hollywood" graffics..)

9# Again, privateer is adding a utility for this.

This is the main problem in my opinion. Sh3 guys come into this game (excuse me.. some.. I don't mean to generalize) expecting it to be just as good as GWX SH3 out of the box.

Do me a favor. Go play Sh3 vanilla. Now play SH5.. See the difference and improvements?

GIVE IT TIME!

Krauter

As always I guess different people want different things from their gaming experience. I've played SH3, SH4 and now that Ubi have relaxed the DRM requirements a bit, SH5.

I bought SH4 and SH5 through Steam which gave me some interesting statistics, such as that I have already clocked up nearly double the hours in SH5 I did in SH4.

Now I'll be the first to admit that, if it wasn't for the work of guys like The Dark Wraith and Sober, chances are I wouldn't have spent so long with it (and the fact that at the moment I have far too much free time on my hands!), but I find the immersion factor when modded is incredible in SH5.

All I can say is try some of the mods that are out there. Get rid of the silly dayglow halos around the characters you can interact with and as Krauter said, give it time.

Dude it is not that bad. The mods have come a long way. Besides, its been out a while now, I thought these sorts of sentiments were behind us now.

"Do me a favor" sure, the day I owe you one.

@ #2. Wow; I didn't know that. I've only been corresponding with Privateer constantly on that thread. And working on my own to import new units, and preparing my merchant ship mod for eventual SH5 use. I happen to love SH5's environmental FX & human models, and I think it's ill-served by a number of limitations. In between modding Sh3 and 4 I am doing what I can to address this issue. Do review what "out of the box" means.

#3 - Seriously - do we know yet what out of the box means, kids?

#6 - ....and do we know what contradictory means?


"Sh3 guys come into this game (excuse me.. some.. I don't mean to generalize) expecting it to be just as good as GWX SH3 out of the box. "

Find the post where I said this. Ahhh...there it is, in the thread announcing "Silent Hunter 6: Battle of the Strawman.":roll:

"7#Moddable, if you're running vanilla SH5 its your problem, same as if you were running vanilla Sh3 or 4."

Reading [in]comprehension is everyone's problem. Maybe a reference to SH5 "out of the box" means SH5 "out of the box".:rotfl2:

why even mention "out of the box" at this point?

Because someone didn't read my post clearly.

No, it's just that no one cares about these childish arguments anymore.

Not so. Some people still care way too much and seem to take criticism of SH5 poorly. Not even being active in efforts to improve the game is enough to escape criticism. Or acknowledging that SH5 is a huge step forward in certain areas, like environmental effects, crew models, and so on.

Thankfully, most SH5 players indeed don't respond this way, and don't throw up a bunch of asinine strawmen. For reasonable people it's just another game - neither magnificent nor terrible - with its own unique flaws and innovations.

Well I see its still cool to come off like an arrogant know it all.

Gold Star you win. Thread dead.

Considering what he's done for SH3 and is attempting to do for SH5, I'd say he knows what he's talking about.

You were talking about arrogant? On the other hand, since you gave me a laugh that I've catalogued for 'Post of the Year' consideration I'm glad to cut you some slack too.

So back up and take a deep breath, both of you, or I'll call Frau Kaleun and her angry Wombat. :O:

No; IT'S inappropriate to take criticism of SH5 personally. IT'S also inappropriate to use misdirection in your arguments, through strawmen, etc.

Oh, and just so you know, there is no SH6 Strawman game coming out. I swear, you and what's-his-name probably ARE looking for that thread, if only to prove his hyperbole was warranted. So thanks for tacitly admitting (through a content-free post) that you can't back up what he wrote (again, point me to the post saying SH5 must be as good as GWX out of the box.)

Yeah he knows what he's talking about and he IS making valid points.

I just don't like his condescending, borderline immature little remarks.

"Do me a favor" sure, the day I owe you one. - Slightly uncalled for but.. I let it pass.


@ #2. Wow; I didn't know that. I've only been corresponding with Privateer constantly on that thread. And working on my own to import new units, and preparing my merchant ship mod for eventual SH5 use. I happen to love SH5's environmental FX & human models, and I think it's ill-served by a number of limitations. In between modding Sh3 and 4 I am doing what I can to address this issue. Do review what "out of the box" means. - This is not common knowledge.. and the slight hint of smug superiority I would say this could have been worded better..

#3 - Seriously - do we know yet what out of the box means, kids? - Yet another comment from atop his mighty throne. Kids? Really?

Oh, and just so you know, there is no SH6 Strawman game coming out. I swear, you and what's-his-name probably ARE looking for that thread, if only to prove his stupid hyperbole was warranted. - And of course again, one more comment from atop the mighty throne of greatness.

You make valid points, and you could have continued the debate making your points. Instead you decided to come off classless and rude. For really no reason, I don't really see the motive to make comments in that nature, honestly.

Ah! Back from searching for that thread I mentioned. How's it going?

"Instead you decided to come off classless and rude."

Your "gold star" comment was the height of politeness, sweetheart.

IMHO your capacity for remaining consistent is roughly equal to your debating skills. Again, point me to the thread where I demanded that SH5 be the equivalent of GWX out of the box. I'm sure that you can do this, and that you're not just misdirecting because deep down you don't believe the garbage strawman argument that was put up earlier.

While my Gold Star comment was my own crowning achevievment of rude, I see your ever attempting to raise the bar for yourself, Buttercup.