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TLAM Strike 12-15-10 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1554016)
Piling the bodies of ones neighbors makes a fairly decent barricade too but it wouldn't be my first choice of material... ;)

When the Commissar is poking you in the back with a Degtyaryov machine gun what you would chose sort of becomes a moot point. :03:

GoldenRivet 12-15-10 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1554020)
When the Commissar is poking you in the back with a Degtyaryov machine gun what you would chose sort of becomes a moot point. :03:

different place, different time, different set of circumstances.

What works for soviet Russia circa 1942 - isnt necessarily going to work for the highly complex and intricate society of the United States in 2010+

when a billion Chinese soldiers land on the coast of California, after California surrenders and they move on to Nevada and Arizona - then we will talk about commissars and piling up body barriers

Tribesman 12-15-10 10:33 AM

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So are women and children when it comes to the strength required to carry an Infantrymans basic load.
Is anyone suggesting blacks and gays lack strength or is that simply a nice strawman you are building for yourself?

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different place, different time, different set of circumstances.

But don't forget Obamas secret army of nazi dentists, they may force you to build barricades by threatening root canal treatment with no pain relief.

GoldenRivet 12-15-10 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1554025)
But don't forget Obamas secret army of nazi dentists, they may force you to build barricades by threatening root canal treatment with no pain relief.


Uhhhh


What?:06:

August 12-15-10 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1554020)
When the Commissar is poking you in the back with a Degtyaryov machine gun what you would chose sort of becomes a moot point. :03:

Poor tactics might work but that doesn't make them the best choice. The Soviets lost millions of people that they didn't have to loose because of that same type of thing.

GoldenRivet 12-15-10 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1554055)
Poor tactics might work but that doesn't make them the best choice. The Soviets lost millions of people that they didn't have to loose because of that same type of thing.

I saw a statistic that more Russians were killed than Jews during ww2

I'd wager a fair number of the Russians were killed by their own people

Tribesman 12-15-10 12:11 PM

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Uhhhh


What?:06:
Referencing back to Bubbleheads topic about the secret Gestapo like private army America now has under its communist dictator president.
After all its bound to have its own version of commisars isn't it.

TLAM Strike 12-15-10 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1554057)
I saw a statistic that more Russians were killed than Jews during ww2

I'd wager a fair number of the Russians were killed by their own people

The Russians lost more people than anyone else in WWII... combined.

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1554055)
Poor tactics might work but that doesn't make them the best choice. The Soviets lost millions of people that they didn't have to loose because of that same type of thing.

I would not call what the Russians did poor tactics, more of an acceptance of the low quality of troops they had and using that to their advantage. They had a huge poorly educated population, they used that to their advantage.

GoldenRivet 12-15-10 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1554090)
They had a huge poorly educated population

Hmmm

Guess its relevant to the present day United States after all :D

the_tyrant 12-15-10 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1554091)
Hmmm

Guess its relevant to the present day United States after all :D

Nope, nowdays a huge amount of young people want to be "hip" and "non-conformist". I have seen teenagers rebel just for the sake of rebelling.

And with sources of information like wikileaks that are biased towards the anti government side, i predict that there will be tons of idiots defecting to north korea when they come.

what I am saying is, there is a lot of teenagers these days educated enough to understand that America sometimes does bad things just like North korea, but not well educated enough to understand patriotism

Raptor1 12-15-10 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1554090)
The Russians lost more people than anyone else in WWII... combined.

China...

Tchocky 12-15-10 05:25 PM

THe idea that this situation is exactly analogous to men and women serving alongside each other is remarkably silly.

Madox58 12-15-10 06:07 PM

One of my best Friends way back in the late '60's early '70's was Gay.
He passed away while I was in the Service.
I could not make it home to carry him to his final resting place.
:nope:
One of my Support Team Members was Gay while in the Service during the early '80's.
He was one of my main go to Guys!
He never made it Home alive but protected my Life on several occasions.
And I never lost a Limb, nor a minute of sleep knowing he was Gay.
He was a TRUE Warrior that gave his life for his Friends!
We always said,
'With our Shields, or on them!'
Funny how when I saw '300' how that hit me.
The Wife couldn't understand my reaction at first.
(I broke down and cried like a Baby)
Until I explained that was one of the last things he said to me before
all Hell broke lose!
I had not thought of that engagement since 1986 or so.
It was something I had blocked out over the years.
I'd let it slide for my mental well being.
Now I ask myself if I put that day away becasue he was just a faggot.
I can tell you with all my heart,
NO!

He was the only Hero I have met face to face in my life!
And I would gladly go back to that moment and take his place.

If young recruits can not handle the fact someone is Gay?
They should never serve in the Military.
They have a defect that would compromise the Mission.
And as any good AirBorne Trooper will tell you?
The Mission is ALL that matters!

nikimcbee 12-15-10 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1554057)
I saw a statistic that more Russians were killed than Jews during ww2

I'd wager a fair number of the Russians were killed by their own people

See final push on Berlin. Konev was ahead of Zhukov, and would have captured Berlin first. Zhukov= Stalin's golden boy.

You don't want to beat the boss's kid.:doh:

Stalin orders Zhukov to attack Konev to slow him down.:o

mookiemookie 12-15-10 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1554292)
One of my best Friends way back in the late '60's early '70's was Gay.
He passed away while I was in the Service.
I could not make it home to carry him to his final resting place.
:nope:
One of my Support Team Members was Gay while in the Service during the early '80's.
He was one of my main go to Guys!
He never made it Home alive but protected my Life on several occasions.
And I never lost a Limb, nor a minute of sleep knowing he was Gay.
He was a TRUE Warrior that gave his life for his Friends!
We always said,
'With our Shields, or on them!'
Funny how when I saw '300' how that hit me.
The Wife couldn't understand my reaction at first.
(I broke down and cried like a Baby)
Until I explained that was one of the last things he said to me before
all Hell broke lose!
I had not thought of that engagement since 1986 or so.
It was something I had blocked out over the years.
I'd let it slide for my mental well being.
Now I ask myself if I put that day away becasue he was just a faggot.
I can tell you with all my heart,
NO!

He was the only Hero I have met face to face in my life!
And I would gladly go back to that moment and take his place.

If young recruits can not handle the fact someone is Gay?
They should never serve in the Military.
They have a defect that would compromise the Mission.
And as any good AirBorne Trooper will tell you?
The Mission is ALL that matters!

Great post. Thank you.


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