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Platapus 11-19-10 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1538149)
You mean like Clinton?

No more like Andrew Johnson but I guess I have to give you credit for a cheap political statement. :nope:

<golf clap>

Onkel Neal 11-19-10 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1537864)
If we boot all who are corrupt, there'd be no one left to run congress. That would be fine with me too.


:haha: Agreed!

Armistead 11-19-10 09:09 AM

Again, I'm ready for an honest King or Queen. I think one honest person could do more in a month that those nuts have done in a lifetime.

mookiemookie 11-19-10 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1538346)
Again, I'm ready for an honest King or Queen. I think one honest person could do more in a month that those nuts have done in a lifetime.

Tory loyalist! :O:

Soundman 11-19-10 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1538245)
Censure was the most they could do without expulsion - which given that Mr. Rangel was just re-elected, should not occur. His constituents, regardless of his legal issues, decided to send him back to Washington. To expel him would be to ignore their choice.

Censure will assure that he is relegated to a minor role - his seniority is not technically stripped, but by tradition the party (either one) tends to shun a censured membor.

Now should there be a legal prosecution? Thats up to a Federal or NY DA I would think.

Agreed, however that's part of the point I was trying to make earlier. Why the heck would anybody want to re-elect an obvious crook. Surely they must have heard about his issues beforehand and if not, they shouldn't have voted to begin with. People that vote, but do not know who or why they are voting for them, probably do more harm than good in elections. If they are not sure and/or don't study the issues and where the candidates stand on the issues, let those making an intelligent, informed decision do the voting. Otherwise, they may well be casting a vote (as in this case)for the wrong person.

August 11-19-10 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1538302)
No more like Andrew Johnson but I guess I have to give you credit for a cheap political statement. :nope:

<golf clap>

What political statement? Who was the last President to be threatened with impeachment? Andrew Johnson? I don't think so...

I responded to your three word question with a simple and unoffensive inquiry as to whether you had a particular person in mind, ie the most recent one threatened with impeachment. Now perhaps you'd be so kind as to explain to me how you could possibly see that as a "cheap political statement".

Personally I think you and the other liberals on this board have become so defensive now that you're side is in power and having to account for it's actions that you all see even the most innocuous things as a personal attack.

Now FWIW had you not gotten your panties in such a twist I would have told you that in my opinion Clinton should NOT have been removed from the Presidency, unless he was first convicted of perjury in a court of law AND sentenced to jail thereby making it impossible for him to finish his term.

But no, you were too eager to be insulted.

mookiemookie 11-19-10 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1538495)
Personally I think you and the other liberals on this board have become so defensive now that you're side is in power and having to account for it's actions that you all see even the most innocuous things as a personal attack.

I don't have to account for anything, as I'm not an elected official. I'm also not such a blind partisan hack that I'd go through mental gynastics to defend one party or another's actions just because they're the actions of "my team". If people stopped thinking of things like sports fans of opposing teams and used the brains in their head, things may be better off.

SteamWake 11-19-10 02:02 PM

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...dem/Rangel.jpg

August 11-19-10 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1538505)
I don't have to account for anything, as I'm not an elected official. I'm also not such a blind partisan hack that I'd go through mental gynastics to defend one party or another's actions just because they're the actions of "my team". If people stopped thinking of things like sports fans of opposing teams and used the brains in their head, things may be better off.

Your response belies your claim of disassociation mookie. Or in other words if the shoe doesn't fit then why are you trying it on?

Platapus 11-19-10 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1538495)
What political statement? Who was the last President to be threatened with impeachment? Andrew Johnson? I don't think so...

I responded to your three word question with a simple and unoffensive inquiry as to whether you had a particular person in mind, ie the most recent one threatened with impeachment. Now perhaps you'd be so kind as to explain to me how you could possibly see that as a "cheap political statement".

Personally I think you and the other liberals on this board have become so defensive now that you're side is in power and having to account for it's actions that you all see even the most innocuous things as a personal attack.

Now FWIW had you not gotten your panties in such a twist I would have told you that in my opinion Clinton should NOT have been removed from the Presidency, unless he was first convicted of perjury in a court of law AND sentenced to jail thereby making it impossible for him to finish his term.

But no, you were too eager to be insulted.

Perhaps your statements would have merit if I were a liberal and a Clinton lover. I happen to be neither. But I guess to you anyone who disagrees with you must be a liberal.

August, when you label people, you lose the capability of understanding them fully and from being able to critically examine what they say. Just some free advice.

August 11-19-10 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1538634)
Perhaps your statements would have merit if I were a liberal and a Clinton lover. I happen to be neither. But I guess to you anyone who disagrees with you must be a liberal.

August, when you label people, you lose the capability of understanding them fully and from being able to critically examine what they say. Just some free advice.

Uh huh. Dude, I simply asked you to clarify who you were talking about, and I did it in a totally neutral and inoffensive way. You just jumped to the conclusion that it was negative. Any time a Conservative mentions the word "Clinton" it MUST be negative, right?

So maybe you ought to follow your own advice Bud.

Because the ironic part is that, like I said, and you ignored, the only reason I asked was because I intended to use him as an example of who should NOT be expunged/impeached. Had you been actually reading my previous posts (instead of apparently scanning them for something to get insulted about) you'd have noticed that I was also defending Democrat Charlie Rangel against expulsion.

Think about it.


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