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FIREWALL 10-21-10 10:30 PM

As Marie Antoinette should have said. " Let them eat PORK." :D

Jimbuna 10-22-10 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1519506)
and yes I found footage of Jim at work. Well, actually, this footage was from the subsim meeting where Jim and Tarjak did a little performence to earn some extra drinking money for that night. But you get the idea:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RajNvJ3bCU

I just gotta know, what is your stage name?:har:

That footage is old, I've learned a completely new routine since then :DL


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Herr-Berbunch 10-22-10 10:43 AM

The French should work longer than the rest of Europe anyway just to make up for all the time they're on strike, because let's face it, they do it a lot :nope:

Wolfehunter 10-22-10 11:24 PM

I must give credit to those French. They stand up for what they believe in and they take action. They don't take crap from there politicians. Unlike the rest of us. hmmmmm :hmmm:

Tribesman 10-23-10 03:07 AM

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I must give credit to those French. They stand up for what they believe in and they take action. They don't take crap from there politicians. Unlike the rest of us. hmmmmm
The upshot of it is that they still get typical politicians who deal out crap and the French still end up taking it despite standing up and taking action.
So really they just complain more noticably but still get shafted like any other population.

Betonov 10-23-10 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1520281)
The upshot of it is that they still get typical politicians who deal out crap and the French still end up taking it despite standing up and taking action.
So really they just complain more noticably but still get shafted like any other population.

Yea, they got a little lazy since the 18th century

STEED 10-23-10 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1520281)
The upshot of it is that they still get typical politicians who deal out crap and the French still end up taking it despite standing up and taking action.
So really they just complain more noticably but still get shafted like any other population.

Well then we have to bring in the death penalty for politicians who fail us. :shifty:

XabbaRus 10-23-10 01:49 PM

And then they find they have no jobs as the unions have screwed it all up...

lol, then they will be moaning that there are no jobs.

Seriously, they want to not work until 62...jeepers, get into the real world.

jumpy 10-23-10 02:10 PM

Raising the statutory age of retirement is ok if you have a nice job, but if you work in a factory or a warehouse all your life for example, by the time you retire you'll be lucky if you have more than 5 years off before you snuff it. After a lifetime of paying into state taxes and pension schemes too. After you're dead, they keep the money you know :woot:

STEED 10-23-10 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jumpy (Post 1520466)
Raising the statutory age of retirement is ok if you have a nice job, but if you work in a factory or a warehouse all your life for example, by the time you retire you'll be lucky if you have more than 5 years off before you snuff it. After a lifetime of paying into state taxes and pension schemes too. After you're dead, they keep the money you know :woot:

And thats why people don't give a toss any more, to hell with saving I'm going to spend it. To hell with the pensions I'm going to spend it.

Let us not forget, Gordon Brown stole money from pension funds. :nope:

Game over...

XabbaRus 10-23-10 05:10 PM

So how are we going to afford pensions then? You can blame labour all you want but the fact is we live longer and the elderly population is increasing thus meaning the payout is getting larger.

So you make your own way in life, you either get on with it and try to make it better or sit around and moan.

tater 10-23-10 05:17 PM

These are the same "senior citizens" that die in droves if the temperature in Paris approaching summer norms for DC, right?

Better off in an air-conditioned office building.

Their low retirement age, and short work week tell a pretty scary story if you consider the normal levels of unemployment there. Both the young retirement age and short week make unemployment numbers look LOWER than they should be.

XabbaRus 10-23-10 05:30 PM

that's the problem with the french economy.

They still have this job for life mentality, unemployment amongst the young eg 20 year olds is high, I think around 10% or more.

bookworm_020 10-23-10 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus (Post 1520544)
that's the problem with the french economy.

They still have this job for life mentality, unemployment amongst the young eg 20 year olds is high, I think around 10% or more.

I believe it's higher among migrant families and their children, going near 50% in some areas.

If the French think their been hard done by seeing the retirement age rise to 62, here in Australia it was raised to 67 not long ago, and there was not all that much grumbling about it! Love to see the french reaction to that!:o

tater 10-23-10 10:40 PM

The kids are probably protesting because they want the older workers to be forced out so they can get a job. Good for french business, too, since they can pay the young, inexperienced workers less.


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