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frau kaleun 09-26-10 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1502609)

Hey, I had one of their blowdryers once. Looked a lot like that.

No wait mine was a Conair.

Is there a weird angle on this pic, or does that thing have one too many of... something?

JokerOfFate 09-26-10 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1502609)

This is what happens when the Air force and the Navy sit down together.

Raptor1 09-26-10 04:45 AM

When it comes to experimental or otherwise prototype aircraft, not much can beat the Kalinin K-7...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nin_K-7_01.jpg

...or the Tarrant Tabor...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nt_Tabor_1.jpg

Schroeder 09-26-10 05:23 AM

Fokker Fodder
Nuff said!
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/al...3965356638.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ro...War_Museum.jpghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_A..._Factory_B.E.2

Jimbuna 09-26-10 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1502546)

Ok new criteria: the aircraft must suck so bad that no corrective measures can fix it. :up:

The Kamikaze :DL

TLAM Strike 09-26-10 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1502862)
The Kamikaze :DL

What? The Kamikaze was one of the most successful weapons ever. On one day they hit seven carriers as well as 40 other ships (five sunk, 23 heavily damaged, and 12 moderately damaged (according to wikipedia). They sank around 40 ships total incl. three aircraft carriers.

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Originally Posted by JokerOfFate (Post 1502706)
This is what happens when the Air force and the Navy sit down together.

Yea its much better when the Navy just slaps the Air Force in the face and says: "This is what you are going to fly, now deal with it!"

NeonSamurai 09-26-10 09:24 AM

How bout this brilliant idea?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR_Fireball

Jimbuna 09-26-10 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1502931)
What? The Kamikaze was one of the most successful weapons ever. On one day they hit seven carriers as well as 40 other ships (five sunk, 23 heavily damaged, and 12 moderately damaged (according to wikipedia). They sank around 40 ships total incl. three aircraft carriers.

I meant in the context of you stating "so bad that no corrective measures can fix it".

I don't believe any were ever 'fixed' :DL

TLAM Strike 09-26-10 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1502948)
How bout this brilliant idea?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR_Fireball

There have been quite a few "composite" ( # Turning and # Burning) aircraft over the years. Like the AJ Savage, Avro Shackleton and B-36 Peacemaker. The Fireball wasn't necessarily a bad aircraft it was more a stopgap solution outpaced by by technology. Don't forget that when the Fireball was built it was assumed their would be a massive apocalyptic battle for Japan and any edge our pilots could have would save lives.

TLAM Strike 09-26-10 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1502957)
I meant in the context of you stating "so bad that no corrective measures can fix it".

I don't believe any were ever 'fixed' :DL

Well they did fix them... they welded cockpit shut some times. ;)

tater 09-26-10 09:49 AM

Three jeep carriers.

For combat aircraft, I think I'd require that they actually saw combat, then look at effectiveness. The G4M was pretty ineffective, and virtually all of them were shot down :)

And they were pretty "fairly" attacked, unlike some of the planes slaughtered during the initial japanese expansion, or even the german invasion of the CCCP. In both cases the attacking AFs had such overwhelming numbers at the sharp end that aircraft quality is a non-starter, any planes would have been wiped out at the right odds.

Oberon 09-26-10 09:58 AM

:hmmm: What can I nominate that hasn't already been said?

I always bring up the Flying Tent Peg, but it only really sucks if you treat it like a normal plane, and then you suck all the way down to the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgkYDDkAz7A

You had to get up, whack something and then go down, if you got into a turning dogfight, well then you're going to struggle.

The Defiant sucked because it was a World War One fighter in World War Two, however it excelled at the night role, so it's not that much of a sucker really...although those who used it after the 109s had twigged on the difference between it and a Hurricane would probably differ in opinion.

TLAM Strike 09-26-10 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1502986)
:hmmm: What can I nominate that hasn't already been said?

I always bring up the Flying Tent Peg, but it only really sucks if you treat it like a normal plane, and then you suck all the way down to the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgkYDDkAz7A

You had to get up, whack something and then go down, if you got into a turning dogfight, well then you're going to struggle.

Hardly! 2,575 built for 15 countries hardly seems like a failure.

I nominate the Convair R3Y Tradewind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_R3Y_Tradewind

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2...ytradewind.jpg
Nice looking, but horribly unreliable.

Gerald 09-26-10 10:19 AM

Fiat CR.42 Falco
 
http://imgur.com/iP3Il.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42

JSLTIGER 09-26-10 10:22 AM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it thus far, so I will...I nominate the Brewster F2A Buffalo, another plane derided by its pilots as a flying coffin. The sad thing is that I grew up about a mile away from where they built these things back in WWII in Warminster, PA.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...A-3_g16055.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo

I'm sorry, but this one just has to take the cake...it's one fugly airplane.


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