Maybe Stephen Hawking is also a subsim secular humanist, oh those were the posts :)

How dare you call me that? I'm going to kill you!
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Sorry, AK. It sounded funny when I wrote it.

Ha, ha, let your computer do the talking :haha:

To be completely honest, you're right about that - I gravitated to the more hard science and glanced over much the philosophical discussion, only responding to points within the manufactured context of the science itself (which is what is most interesting to me). Many apologies.

It would appear as though we're not terribly far apart on things. Honestly (and with 100% my own fault) we seem to be positing two arguments relating to two completely different things. I believe you're making one point because that's my train of thought and therefore argue against it, meanwhile missing that you're trying to say something else altogether.

Mea Culpa.

Aww
 

From the tiniest micron, to the exquisite snowflake, to the gigantic solar system, everything is precise and perfect. Nothing is ever used up or spent, just changed.

God didn't create the Universe. He created the possibilities for all things to occur. Nothing happens by accident, yet He doesn't throw a hurricane at anyone. According to his laws, if the elements are present in the exact measure, something happens.

We exist because of a set of rules that make all things possible. How can we hope to understand the depth and breadth of such wisdom and ability. He didn't create the Universe, but made it possible. :rock: