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stoppro 09-04-10 03:24 PM

I had a set-up similar to his.I in stalled a gtx9800 my cpu would not accept a 260.I kept getting messages-not enough resource-but the 9800 was acceptable.I think he is going to need a better rig all the way around.

CaptainMattJ. 09-05-10 01:31 PM

here it is.

DC output: 300 W (+3.3v & +5 = 130W max)
AC input: 100 - 127 - 2400 V 7/3.5A, 60/50 Hz

+ 3.3V (one solid line and a dashed line go here) 20.0A (Org) + 5V (sold line and a dashed line) 26.0A (Red) + 12V1 (Sold line and dashed) 8.0A (Yel) + 12V2 (solid and dashed line) 14.0A (Yel/Black) + 5Vsb (solid and dashed line) 2.0A (Purp) -12V (solid line and dashed line) 0.8A (Blue)

Arclight 09-05-10 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 1485659)
here it is.

DC output: 300 W (+3.3v & +5 = 130W max)
AC input: 100 - 127 - 2400 V 7/3.5A, 60/50 Hz

+ 3.3V (one solid line and a dashed line go here) 20.0A (Org) + 5V (sold line and a dashed line) 26.0A (Red) + 12V1 (Sold line and dashed) 8.0A (Yel) + 12V2 (solid and dashed line) 14.0A (Yel/Black) + 5Vsb (solid and dashed line) 2.0A (Purp) -12V (solid line and dashed line) 0.8A (Blue)

Let's see that's:
3.3*20= 66W max on +3.3V line
5*26= 130W max on +5V line
12*8= 96W max on first 12V rail
12*14= 168W max on second 12V rail

For what it's worth: it seems like a decent unit. Delivers 264W of rated 300W on the 12V rails. But it is too light for any kind of gaming rig.

I'd look for something that delivers 35A-40A on the 12V rails, if you're considering something like a GTX260 or GTS250.

CaptainMattJ. 09-05-10 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight (Post 1485975)
Let's see that's:
3.3*20= 66W max on +3.3V line
5*26= 130W max on +5V line
12*8= 96W max on first 12V rail
12*14= 168W max on second 12V rail

For what it's worth: it seems like a decent unit. Delivers 264W of rated 300W on the 12V rails. But it is too light for any kind of gaming rig.

I'd look for something that delivers 35A-40A on the 12V rails, if you're considering something like a GTX260 or GTS250.

Alright, well what CAN i get. as in what graphics card can i get thats enough to run SH5 with most if not all graphics on that DOESNT fry the motherboard. anything except ATI Radeon preferably.


And to clear some things up: Please you guys, understand i am not willing to do a full blown upgrade on my computer. Im not even really looking to buy any more new games. kinda older games, sure but not much else. Ill get what i need to play SH5 without the terribad 9 FPS, but not much else. If i could spare any money itd be spent on something else. im still living with my parents and im 23. i have a job, but every cent i make goes towards my car payment, gas , and my share of the bills. theres no room to save up a 1000 bucks to Do a Full workup on my computer, as much as i want to. and trust me, if i had the cash id defneitely Upgrade this junker. i cant believe i call it that too, its only 3 years old FFS. Its already considered a P.O.S. If you REALLY want a P.O.S ill give you my old computer. there was like 16 MB RAM and about 400 MB Hard Drive. it was FUBAR to the max, it was running windows 95, and its now sitting to the right of me, about 10 feet away collecting dust. its about 16 years old. it cos my dad 1000 dollars When it was bought. A THOUSAND DOLLARS, and 16 years ago. holy S**T thats like 2k back then. i got this machine for 600 bucks, and that includes the printer, speakers, and a few software programs. this machine outperforms that old one 100 fold and it cost 5 times less. just goes to show how fast technology becomes readily available annd cheap and a helluva lot more powerful.

Arclight 09-05-10 10:59 PM

Maybe something like a 210: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/produ...ce_210_uk.html

But you don't want that. Honestly doubt it would run SH5 any better anyway. :doh:

Even something like a 9500GT, which is pretty low spec and not quite up to SH5, requires 350W (or rather, 18A on that 12V2 rail).

You just can't hook up a decent card to that PSU, and even if you could I doubt that CPU would be willing to cooperate.

stoppro 09-06-10 12:58 AM

I'd suggest a 500-550watt psu, If you have a pci-e slot a 9800 gt or 9800 gtx-that would get you a little more beef for about 200 dollars and probably better than 4fps and it shouldn't jam your cpu

Arclight 09-06-10 02:38 AM

Running it maxed on 8800GTS512 (AA halfway). 9800GTX/GTS250 should do nicely, me thinks. :yep:

edit: Again, given that the CPU is up to the task.

Konovalov 09-06-10 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight (Post 1486054)
Running it maxed on 8800GTS512 (AA halfway). 9800GTX/GTS250 should do nicely, me thinks. :yep:

edit: Again, given that the CPU is up to the task.

And that he looks at a new PSU.

Arclight 09-06-10 09:42 AM

And that too, of course. :doh:

CaptainMattJ. 09-06-10 01:52 PM

So theres NOTHING i can get WITHOUT buying a new PSU?? Nothing at all?

CaptainMattJ. 09-06-10 01:54 PM

well how much does a PSU cost :damn:. Man this really sucks.

stoppro 09-06-10 02:01 PM

look at compusa or new egg. there under a hundred dollars and 95gtx is about 60.

CaptainMattJ. 09-06-10 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoppro (Post 1486489)
look at compusa or new egg. there under a hundred dollars and 95gtx is about 60.

ive been looking on both sites and ive chosen a few that look promising. i wanna see what you think of it.

heres a 580W PSU for 25 bucks on newegg.

Sunbeam Hush PSU-HUSH580-US 580W ATX12V Power Supply - OEM


there are others, but im worried about quality. theres quite a few reviews saying it was dead on arrival and burned out or blew up a few days later.

Any good QUALITY PSU thats cheap. around at MAX 50$??

And how about a graphics card eh? Im fine with any graphics card that isnt 200 bucks and that you agree has good quality.

im willing to go with, again, at MAX 150$. if i can get a grahpics card and PSU, and still have money to spare, im open to suggestions on what to spend it on.

Reece 09-06-10 07:53 PM

I have a Vantec 600w ion2+ PSU, this is a very good unit and a very good price, had mine for over a year now running a 3.5ghz Phenom II CPU and HIS Turbo ATI HD4850 GPU card!:up: just do a search!:yep:
See:
http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/413

CaptainMattJ. 09-06-10 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1486718)
I have a Vantec 600w ion2+ PSU, this is a very good unit and a very good price, had mine for over a year now running a 3.5ghz Phenom II CPU and HIS Turbo ATI HD4850 GPU card!:up: just do a search!:yep:
See:
http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/413

Can this run SH5 with most if not all graphics features at a decent res?


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