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Tribesman 08-29-10 03:40 AM

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How interesting, how so many chose to ignore the message, and instead attempt a charector assasination of the messanger.
Its the message thats under attack, I have long said that your version of nationalism which surfaces regularly on a wide range of topics where you put over a message is seemingly indistinguishable from a crazy 1930s dictatorship that existed in Germany.
Now your message you give is topped with holocaust denial and links to Aryan white supremacists.

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I say what is on my mind, without candycoating it.
There is no way of candycoating it, neo nazi scum are just neo nazi scum and their views are of that nature.
As for whats on your mind? the abence of a functioning thought process is generally a requirement for a neo nazi mind.

But it is such a pity Saga is only at #9 in the white resistance "music" chart with her tribute to Screwdriver, I thought due to your previously expressed views on aryan women I thought you would prefer those brainwashed inbred blond little girls in Prussian Blue at #7.
But can you do us a favour and post a link to #1 in the racists music chart which is the hilariously titled Klassic Klan Kompositions
I bet thats a real doozy with some kickass white power tunes:rock:

DarkFish 08-29-10 07:49 AM

Snestorm may be a nazi or not, but AFAIK we're still entitled the right to have our own opinion.
As long as he doesn't throw racistic offenses all over the place, I can't see any problems with his political viewpoints.

Personally, my opinion of people is *never* based on political stances (in fact 90% of my friends are politically about the exact opposite of me). Of course everyone has the right to hate nazi's, and everyone has the right to hate Snestorm for possibly being a nazi. But as of now I see half the Subsim members attacking Snestorm because of his opinions. Isn't that exactly what the nazi's did with communists? So if you hate them so much, don't drop to their level by imitating their behaviour!

If you don't like Snestorm, put him on iggy list instead of making him out to be a mentally disadvantaged incestuous bastard.

Just my 2 cents:salute:

Penguin 08-30-10 07:53 AM

I for myself did not say anything against voicing an opinion – you are free to think whatever you like and to voice your opinion in any way you want. However if you write an opinion on a public board, prepare to be drawn into a discussion – hell, that's what a board is for, isn't it? Putting someone on ignore who thinks different is not my cup of tea, just like reporting someone isn't (dunno if someone reported the statement). We should just use the right choice of words when discussing this specific topic.

There are 3 things mixed up:
  1. opinions : art, politics, food = open for debate
  2. believes: ideologies, religion, faith = also open for debates
  3. (scientific) facts: history, natural science = not open for debates
to put it into examples:
  1. "I don't like danish music/food/people" = opinion
  2. "I participate in a party which has the target to throw out the Danes" = political ideology
  3. "The danish flag is the oldest flag which is still in use today" = historical fact
  4. "The Danes are genetically inferior" = pseudo-scientific argument influenced by ideology
Most of the arguments between historians are about weightning of facts, not that the facts are there. The word „holohoax“ expresses no opinion but the pseudo-fact that the holocaust didn't happen, that 99.9% of all historians are to cowardish to reveal this fact and/or are controlled by the jews/media/commies/blue whales/whatever. All relevance of argumentation is killed by this. If you deny historical facts you are not worth to participate in discussing history. Thats where my advice comes from to discuss this on the relevant boards for this crap.
If someone wants to open a thread on subsim about the existance of the holocaust, fine, I won't take part in it. Been there, done that and it bores me. Its the same like discussing with Creationists, their belief system somehow overrides their logical thinking.If you debunk their „facts“ they still continue to believe (remember kids: believes are not facts)

@ Dark Fish: I see where you are coming from and it's fine to me – don't know about your political stance, so I am not influenced by it ;). Here's a little background on me: I cannot be friends with someone who would like to deport my unaryan friends. I have had my share of verbal and physical confrontations with neo-Nazis, I always preferred the verbal way. Some years ago a Nazi-skin said to me that I was the first leftie where he could talk to, I was astonished by the fact that no one else ever tried it with him. I have been beaten down for wrongly mistaken for a Nazi and I have defended people who were accused of being one by people who think inside their little box. In my wider circle of friends there are also some guys who were on the brown side of the political spectrum when there were younger and dumber - good guys today, and guess what: the most intolerant persons when confronted with fascist thoughts. I know someone from my early youth who was in one of the most famous european WP-bands. Whenever we see us – which seldom happens – we still respect each other, also due to the fact he can state his believes, I can state mine, he leaves folks alone and even he is not so stupid to believe that the holocaust is fake.

I don't want to brag with these facts, just want to state that I am not the typical "shout-someone-down-because-of-their-opinion guy“. But always, to use a quote from Mr Kwesi Johnson“ "When fascists attack: fight dem back!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYG5J4s0D_s Just to end this statement with good music :DL

Buddahaid 08-30-10 11:59 AM

Those who deny the holocaust serve the same purpose as Jonathan Harris did as Dr. Smith in Lost in Space. As much as you might hate them, they keep it alive! Everytime someone touts it as a hoax, it's history comes alive for the young and refreshed for the old. Perhaps we who choose to avoid the historical blinders should be grateful.

Budda

Bilge_Rat 08-30-10 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1479448)
Snestorm:
maybe you should discuss this topic on a board like stormfront with like-minded people who fingerbang their daughters. :damn:
I prefer to participate in a forum where educated people write who know facts about history. I have no problems in discussing with Nazis if they are worth it, mind over fist, but if I would like discussing male-cow-poop like the holohoax or Reichsflugscheiben I would do this elsewhere - there are enough boards for the mentally disadvantaged out there.


good one: :up:

-on the main topic, tempest in a tea storm.

Bilge_Rat 08-30-10 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1480173)
Snestorm may be a nazi or not, but AFAIK we're still entitled the right to have our own opinion.

Agreed. I personally think Israel is a bastion of western democracy in the Middle East and that is my personal opinion. :cool:


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