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Originally Posted by XabbaRus (Post 1422849)

Hmm the easy things to jump on for a conspiracy theorist.

As for the safety violations. Can you back that up, I mean not that there were not any violations but the statement "more than any other oil company in the world".

The easiest things to jump on are the true ones.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bps-dismal-...ry?id=10763042

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The violations are determined when an employer demonstrated either an "intentional disregard for the requirements of the [law], or showed plain indifference to employee safety and health."
OSHA statistics show BP ran up 760 "egregious, willful" safety violations, while Sunoco and Conoco-Phillips each had eight, Citgo had two and Exxon had one comparable citation.

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BP have done more than any poxy federal government unit have done regarding this spill.

Well that's the point of an oil company, isn't it? To drill, use and maintain oil wells. Stands to reason that they'd be better at capping one than the government.

760 violations based on what. How are they defined? Is it a paper violation or an actual violation.

I work in the oil industry and they have stop cards etc, but some of these violations will be more procedural rather than actual.

Also if you want to know why there is a feeling of pot kettle black in the UK over this in terms of lives lost then I will give you piper alpha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Alpha#Aftermath

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus (Post 1423101)

Also if you want to know why there is a feeling of pot kettle black in the UK over this in terms of lives lost then I will give you piper alpha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Alpha#Aftermath

Gah, I, like all Aberdonians who are old enough, remember that.

I remember going to see the Queen Mother unveil the memorial too - nice, bright sunny day. Hell of a lot of people went to see it.

One of the women I work with lost her husband during it.

Nasty business, nasty indeed.

Mike.

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1422815)

No, that's BP's job first and foremost. The market doesn't work right if it can pawn off regulatory responsibilities on the state, and the state doesn't do the job well to begin with. The state's only proper responsibility is enforcing legitimate civil court decisions relating to compensation for damages.

No one is trying to clear BP of blame but the fact is 'big oil' cant take a dump without some sort of regulatory agency from the goverment 'signing off' on it.

In fact this particular rig was in line for a safety award :haha:

Barton was in effect right, actually.

There are already laws on the books that will require BP to pay. Confiscating their money, and doling it out without due process is a real concern. Wer don;t like what neo-nazis have to say, for example, but the State should not be allowed to silence them, that would be unconstitutional. As is taking property without due process.

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1424667)

It's the Chicago way Brotha !

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