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oscar19681 06-11-10 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1416730)

:har:

Aufklarer 06-11-10 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barso (Post 1416759)
The fact that the game was released in the state it was means it was pushed out early as no more resources were being dedicated to finishing what the devs wanted.
I wish Dan could tell us the true story to SH5 but as he is still on the ubisoft payroll we will never find out unless they cut the devs.

SO TRUE...

They UBI board clearly sat down and said "times are hard we are gonna have to pull the plug on the SH series." Developers replied " But sir we are only 50% complete." To which the board in turn replied "Make it playable, make it happen fast and sell the subsim community down the river. Dont worry those mugs will buy it when they see those shiny graphics!"

And thats exactly what happened, we took to bait because we have a passion for the genre, people reading this now will have bought SH5 even though they knew the game wasnt finished. We love subsimming and to hell with it, our modders will save the day. If it wasnt for them i would have stopped playing SH3 years ago.

I cant wait untill a developer actually tells the true story of why UBI have abused the goodwill of the communtiy and alienated them. I for one will no longer support their shoddy company and customer service by buying half finished, mediocre, substandard and wholly unsatisfactory products.

Hartmann 06-11-10 12:07 PM

I donīt think that is the end of Silent Hunter series as a game but yes as a simulator . the series can continue in a different way, more arcade for consoles marquet.

No realism, no mods, only fast fire and warships in scripted campaigns , forget navigate free in the ocean, only clossed scenarios like PT boats.

The future for subsims remains in the modding of sh4-shV and perhaps some other free games.

ubi gives to us a uncut diamond but could be a hard work convert this to this

:nope:

http://bespokecashmere.files.wordpre...mond_rough.jpg

http://www.diamondocean.com/news/ima...1015_114_1.jpg

Barso 06-11-10 12:11 PM

If they intend for the community to fix it then they need to open the game up and let the modders at it.
But then that will never happen either.
There's a reason pc games have such a long shelf life and that's due to people picking up games later when they have the hardware to run it and modding.
It's a shame that SH5 will end here and now.
Is there a reason why Dan won't claim they are working on patch 1.3?
I know he reads the forums.

krashkart 06-11-10 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barso (Post 1416819)
Is there a reason why Dan won't claim they are working on patch 1.3?
I know he reads the forums.


He might not be able to say much of anything without breaching contract with his employer. That's my guess.

Barso 06-11-10 12:42 PM

What I will never understand is why a dev or publisher would not say that the next patch is being developed.
That would at least give some confidence to the people that bought this game.
I have read that SH 3+4 were treated the same and were just as buggy as SH5 if not worse.
Hopefully we won't have to buy an XPAC to get the last patch.

Madox58 06-11-10 12:55 PM

I'd tend to doubt there's any plans at this time for another patch.
Maybe down the road given the right circumstances.
I'd say one of the biggest things that could drive a new patch?
Stop begging for a handout,
kick this Pig in the arse and do some real work on fixing what we can.
We can add Units, so lets do that.
The more the better!
We can work the campaign files,
BBW has done alot of work that would amaze you!
But he needs those Units!
So what if Ubi did write off SH5?
They'll only take a second look if WE prove it's needed.
Not by bitching and argueing.
But by createing things as was done for past versions.
Proveing we are a force to be considered!
It would only serve to put money in Ubi's accounts sure.
But that's Ubi's driveing force.
And we all win with a better Game in the long run.

We can leave like rats on a sinking ship.
Or We can,
(as has been done before),
get Ubi's attention.

robbo180265 06-11-10 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1416845)
I'd tend to doubt there's any plans at this time for another patch.
Maybe down the road given the right circumstances.
I'd say one of the biggest things that could drive a new patch?
Stop begging for a handout,
kick this Pig in the arse and do some real work on fixing what we can.
We can add Units, so lets do that.
The more the better!
We can work the campaign files,
BBW has done alot of work that would amaze you!
But he needs those Units!
So what if Ubi did write off SH5?
They'll only take a second look if WE prove it's needed.
Not by bitching and argueing.
But by createing things as was done for past versions.
Proveing we are a force to be considered!
It would only serve to put money in Ubi's accounts sure.
But that's Ubi's driveing force.
And we all win with a better Game in the long run.

We can leave like rats on a sinking ship.
Or We can,
(as has been done before),
get Ubi's attention.

Some wise words there matey:up:

pythos 06-11-10 01:11 PM

This thread and poll, I think is a very grand example of something that is completely un needed.

First off it is yet another "let's bash Ubi" thread. It is negative, and does nothing concerning the improvement of the game.

Comparing Sh5 to God Father 2 is like comparing an old apple to a moldy orange. God Father 2 was an abortion from the day it came out. It was just a vehicle to get some money from first person shooter fans, in answer to Grand Theft auto.

The OP said that GF2 was was better than the stock version of Sh5 is unbelievably wrong. My friend got that game and IT NEVER RAN RIGHT. It crashed as often as SH4 stock.

That being said. The choices of the poll are all much the same except for the one that actually supports the game, which is phrased in a manner that only a blind fool would say.

That being said. I have stated this before. If I was a dev for UBI and saw the treatment handed to me BEFORE the game came out, I would have told the community to eff off.

It is too early to tell what the fate of SH5 is. It is also way to early to tell the fate of the SH series.

A key thing we seem to forget. Sh5 on most of our computers is not what UBI put a lot of work in. How much work did UBI put into making the environment? Well most of that work is thrown out by the environmental mods. That is just one example. Why should a dev put time into putting something together if it is just going to be changed by a modder to something is superior?

I am not a rabid fan boy. I am very much aware of how terrible aspects of the game are, however I don't see the point of continuing to slam UBI with polls and threads like this.

Barso 06-11-10 01:14 PM

I like you attitude privateer!
I am not a modder but just how moddable is SH5 at the moment with patch 1.2 ?

krashkart 06-11-10 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1416845)
*Post of ROCK*

^^ I truncated it a little. :DL

Not sayin' you're ancient, but... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4C2TDUPejc

:rock:

asanovic7 06-11-10 01:23 PM

dude 41,57%

are we optimistic or what?

:DL

asanovic7 06-11-10 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1416845)
i'd tend to doubt there's any plans at this time for another patch.
Maybe down the road given the right circumstances.
I'd say one of the biggest things that could drive a new patch?
Stop begging for a handout,
kick this pig in the arse and do some real work on fixing what we can.
We can add units, so lets do that.
The more the better!
We can work the campaign files,
bbw has done alot of work that would amaze you!
But he needs those units!
So what if ubi did write off sh5?
They'll only take a second look if we prove it's needed.
Not by bitching and argueing.
But by createing things as was done for past versions.
Proveing we are a force to be considered!
It would only serve to put money in ubi's accounts sure.
But that's ubi's driveing force.
And we all win with a better game in the long run.

We can leave like rats on a sinking ship.
Or we can,
(as has been done before),
get ubi's attention.



freedom!!!!

:)

Madox58 06-11-10 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barso (Post 1416866)
I like you attitude privateer!
I am not a modder but just how moddable is SH5 at the moment with patch 1.2 ?


I don't use 1.2 yet.
:03:
But the files are as moddable as before!
We just can not use S3D (YET) which many depend on!
(Urfish did a fix for particles, I did a fix for zones and am working on more areas)
So it falls back to hexing things for awhile.
We also need scripters to look at things besides the UI.

It's going to take alot of people in many areas to do some serious work.
I fear threads like this do nothing more then scare them like
stories of The Boogie Man hideing in the closet when they were young.
:nope:

Barso 06-11-10 01:31 PM

If threads like this are actually scaring modders away then these threads really do
need to stop.
I would love to see this game flourish as it just looks so damn good and it would be great to see it up with the best.


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