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Ow hell, that's not fair, you gots like 6 holes to choose from, I got only two and I'm not going for the stinker. :stare:

I don't think we should carry this discussion forward, but at least i got a laugh out of it:salute:

Party pooper. :O:

:salute:

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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 1377246)

the governement in Holland was very good in spending more then what the country earned...increasing the national debt...and now they go ''We'll have to cut in the Healthcare AGAIN, in education AGAIN!''

And raising pensionable age to 67 as well. :shifty:

My chances of living to 65 with my mind intact are slim, now I'm totally screwed. :lol:

EU can always ask for a bit of "assistance" from China :D

Deutchland uber alles. I think until the waiter brings them the check. Of course, the could annex a few states to pay for the debt...:hmmm:
Lebensraum anyone?

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1377984)

Deutchland uber alles. I think until the waiter brings them the check. Of course, the could annex a few states to pay for the debt...:hmmm:
Lebensraum anyone?

:roll:

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Originally Posted by Bloomberg

“This is like Ebola,” Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development Secretary General Gurria told Bloomberg Television yesterday. “It’s threatening the stability of the financial system.”

It's always a spectacle to hear politicians playing down things and voicing how optimistic they are and that things are under control - while things already are several turns ahead in the fall down the spiral and monetarian distaster numbers constantly climb and climb and climb.

The 600 billion being mentioned in the following report sure as hell will not be the last mark being reached. I estimate 300+ billion for Greece alone, and being in the trillions when considering Portugal, Ireland, Spain, Greece alltogether.

Meanwhile it is being reported that rich Greeks have smuggled 8 billion out of the country in the first two months of this year - while initially 8.5 billion German tax-bucks were mentioned to go into Greece (actually the german share currently is euphemistically maked at 30+ billion, which of course is just wishful thinking).

The lies and self-deceptions of the past 20 or 30 years are now going to gotcha us. Can't say I would shed a tear over the Eurozone collapsing and hopefully the EU suffering disruptive damage from it. Wer nicht hören will, muß fühlen.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...HqLT1CeQ&pos=2

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/articl...-Rechnung.html

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Originally Posted by Bloomberg

European policy makers may need to stump up as much as 600 billion euros ($794 billion) in aid or buy government bonds if they are to stamp out the region’s spreading fiscal crisis, said economists at JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc.
(...)
A Greek agreement may not be enough to end a crisis that’s ricocheting through all euro-region markets and governments may have to come up with a blanket plan for the bloc as a whole, said Mackie. He calculates that in a worst-case contagion scenario, supporting Spain, Portugal and Ireland and Greece may require aid worth 8 percent of the gross domestic product of the rest of the region. That’s equivalent to about 600 billion euros.

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1377984)

Deutchland uber alles. I think until the waiter brings them the check. Of course, the could annex a few states to pay for the debt...:hmmm:
Lebensraum anyone?

That was really so damn funny, I pissed my pants in laughter.

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1376177)

Whether or not Germany would pull out of the E.U. I cannot say, but I think the E.U. would benefit greatly from a more pro-German agenda. Such an agenda would have to adopted gradually, with smaller nationalities or regions adopting German policy as a test-bed. Austria or the Sudetenland would probably be a good place to start. After that, a nation like, say, the Czech Republic might be persuaded to get on board.

Some larger nations might present more of a problem. Poland, for instance, would probably have reservations about jumping on ze Bundes-wagon that might necessitate creative efforts to overcome political resistance. Fortunately, there is a simple, final, solution if that is the case. German electrical engineers could be dispatched to revamp Poland's electrical system, resulting in an overload of all their light-bulbs. Then German administration can move in quite easily, as most of the Poles will be too busy rotating ladders to think about EU policy. I call it the polits-krieg.

If that pans out, the E.U. can then begin adopting the policy on a more widespread scale. Small but progressive nations like Belgium or the Netherlands would likely be the first to willingly accept this model of reform. Europe's other major continental power, France, would likely also surrender to reason and join up.

Ultimately, I think everyone but maybe the UK would adopt the German-centric agenda, but that's okay because the UK has always recieved large amounts of high-quality German exports whenever Germany demonstrates economic dominance.

Using this plan, I think Germany could build an E.U. that would last a thousand years.

LOL Ein EU! Ein Euro! Ein etc. etc.:D

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1378165)

That was really so damn funny, I pissed my pants in laughter.

You didn't! As a good German you don't know what hum(o)ur is and therefore you never laugh. Besides, you wear no pants but Lederhosen!:nope:

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and being in the trillions when considering Portugal, Ireland, Spain, Greece alltogether.

:har:

That's because you've not been here and don't have 1st hand experience.

The real truth about what is underlying in Spain is ... EU breaking :88)

We're going to get our as**es shot off the EU in less than what you need to spell "E.U."

And deservedly so :nope:

Why is Germany pushing to get Greece out of the s***? Why not let them sink and kick them out of the EU.

I think there is more to this than meets the eye. :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1378719)

Why is Germany pushing to get Greece out of the s***? Why not let them sink and kick them out of the EU.

I think there is more to this than meets the eye. :hmmm:

To put it in the words of some person who's name I cannot recall at the moment: "It's the politics, stupid".

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1378719)

Why is Germany pushing to get Greece out of the s***? Why not let them sink and kick them out of the EU.

I think there is more to this than meets the eye. :hmmm:

It's also the economics. Germany needs Greece (and the rest of the EU) to buy its exports, otherwise its economy suffers. The problem with the EU is if one falls, then the others being tightly linked economically as well as politically, suffer along with them.

The problem here will be the fact that the cycle of failure, bailout will most likley not be broken and if you think Greece is the only EU state teetering on the brink of economic collapse, then you should take a good hard look at Spain, Italy and some of the other less likely suspects.

Germany depends on all of the others to make the EU work for their economy.

I would like the UK out of that bloody EU Monster, £45 million a day we give to the EU...Stuff them, that's money we need to get out of our own mess.