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codmander 03-03-10 02:17 PM

NO...same as sh4 --wait n see-- 50$ with house 2 kids is not a lot but thriftyness is the best play either way cant lose either its a piece of junk and I wont buy it like sh4 or its worth picking up but will be reduced by then

nervouspete 03-03-10 03:19 PM

Hey you lot.

I'm going to get it, if only because I feel the immersion is there. I'll be happier once TDC's and rudder controls are modded in, and a more historical interface, but then I think I realise why the developers have gone for a basic look for the existing UI. They wanted to remove the impression of you pressing things and make it seem more like you were giving orders to your crew to carry out. It's a sub-capt. sim, not a 'be all the crew' sim.

Am I happy with this decision? Can't say I am, but then I'm not cross either when a fine array of modders waits in the wings to work on this baby. I'm very pleased that they've left it so open for modification and tinkering. Eventually we'll get something very beautiful out of this, I'm sure.

Up until then I don't mind so much what icons I'm clicking or keys I'm pressing, so long as I feel like I'm there. Consensus of those who own it seems to be - on average:

Utterly ravishing to look at.
Interface a little baffling but workable.
Doesn't let you take full control of some aspects as SH3 did.
AI good to great.
Bugs are there but not game crippling and fixable.
Certain specifics are a little sloppy - no oilskins for crew (grrr!) recon planes at night...
Intentionally different from SH3/4
Manual is a load of balls, as are the instructions.

I find the last negative particularly ironic as this is supposed to be a 'break-out' game to hook the non-sim player. Way to reel them in with a completely inadequate manual and downright wrong key listings. Heigh-ho.

Overall though this looks a very promising title and I'm itching to buy it. I only want to know four things:

1: Is there a gramophone/radio and can I drop in those old war radio files? That was half the immersion for me with GWX, listening to authentic war broadcasts. It'll be doubly excellent when a new SH5Commander comes out.

2: Does your sub have the full crew of 40-odd, or just the 27 or so I see in the videos? Does the game make you think that the others are just rotated off shift but still on boat, or is history revised for a smaller crew? I don't mind if for performance reasons they had to scale it back, but I would like a feeling of people in bunks to make up numbers and stuff.

3: Do crew get injured or die and are replaced by suspiciously similarly voiced fresh faced types, like that bit where Homer leaves the bar and reappears as Guy Incognito?

4: Do crew still get thrown about and stuff?

It'd be great if anyone could answer me those. Ta.

So... do I think that this title needed more development time? Yeah, sure. But it's always been the case with pretty much everyone except games by Valve and the Holy Civilization series. (Except Colonization 2, that was guff.) I can't get mad at Ubi for their copy protection decision either, though I think it's a bad call. I'm just happy that some big publisher is supporting the sim genre, which is facing hard times.

I aim on boycotting all Ubisoft products, except simulations. Maybe one day they will wake up and realise that we PC gamers are tired of draconian measures, excepting with regards to sims, in which case they are Stringer Bell and we are their Bubbles.

I like to sink into a game like I do a book - and SH5 looks to be one that'll immerse me deeply. Can't wait frankly for Friday, even though it means beans on toast until mid-month payday.

KiwiVenge 03-03-10 03:32 PM

Still not sure.
Kind of put off for a few of the usual (unmentionable) reasons plus the varying release dates.
May end up buying it tomorrow but may wait for a lot longer too.

theluckyone17 03-03-10 03:51 PM

I'd love to vote yes on this, but can't at the current moment... I'd hate to vote no, but hope that I won't have to... so I'll abstain instead. :shifty:

Sailor Steve 03-03-10 04:10 PM

Haven't bought it. I will when I can, but that may not be for many moons.

Thomen 03-03-10 04:13 PM

Voted : No

I don't have it, and don't plan on buying it any time soon. ;)

sergei 03-03-10 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nervouspete (Post 1290698)
Manual is a load of balls, as are the instructions.
I find the last negative particularly ironic as this is supposed to be a 'break-out' game to hook the non-sim player.

Agreed.
The manual is, as you have said, a load of balls.
And the manual is outstanding in that it manages to be even less informative than SH 3 or 4.
I feel that a non Subsim type player would be baffled by this game, the manual doesn't even seem to cater to them.

Stranger 03-03-10 08:39 PM

Bought it
 
Wal-mart, the day it opened. For play on a laptop, Hate the DRM, Love the game...But it needs the help of the Subsim modders...

jwilliams 03-03-10 08:54 PM

You need a "Still on the fence" Option.

Cant vote as i still havent decided.

BlueTosh 03-03-10 09:06 PM

YES … and it's installing now on my Win7 PC as I write this (on my Mac).

UPDATE: install went smoothly; it's also downloading an update.

V.C. Sniper 03-03-10 10:02 PM

nope.

frenema 03-03-10 10:31 PM

No.

Other than better graphics, it has nothing that SH3/GWX already has or is better at. So no point in wasting my money for this *****.

corvette k225 03-03-10 10:51 PM

No,But I will wait three months,just to see what goes. I just wish we had
the GWX Team. But have fun, to all that have it.:up:

santini812 03-04-10 03:46 AM

Downloading now via Steam, reading reviews and complaints...nothing much has changed since I loaded Silent Hunter I 'Commander's Edition" on my C64, complaints about bugs and poorly developed code.

If SH5 is similar to SH!, SH2, SH3 or SH4, for the price of dinner and a movie I'll get hundreds of hours of enjoyment. Thanks to the guys at Ubisoft and here (God Bless the Modders).

While I wish the game were perfect out of the box I understand the complexity of creating a sim and forgive fixable bugs. I don't believe DRM's are the antichrist and if it stops anyone from stealng the game I can live with that (I realize that it won't stop most people who want to steal it but it may slow down the lazy, incompetent thieves).

I'm looking forward to playing it and I'm sure I'll be playing it when SH6 comes out

Feuer Frei! 03-04-10 03:56 AM

No
sitting back and waiting...


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