Sometimes I have a feeling of embarrassment for being the member of this forum, all this SH5 frenzy (pro or against) had left me a sour taste about the way most people here can react to such an insignificant thing, and I feel sorry that such an amount of energy is being invested in nothing. In plain nothing.

Draconian DRM issues
 

Buying a game with "unnacceptable" DRM constrictions is a personal choice.

It's a free market.

I'm not buying cos I don't like it (DRM internet connection) - and can't make me. I require freedom to install uninstall as I see fit without the vagaries of a company/server that might not be around in a year or two dictating how I use what I bought - it's not a bloody firearm!! its a game.

My own view and my own choice --- All the Best Mort

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c'mon...preorder...you know you want to....:arrgh!:

Do what you want to do.

I'm a staunch opponent of OSP. But I am not going to strong arm others into not purchasing Ubisoft's products solely on the basis of OSP's inclusion. Stand my ground and state my stance, yes. Pressure and bully someone who would otherwise have purchased SH5, no.

When people who are buying a game are compared to people who collaborated with the Nazis, you know something's gone wrong.

1. Like it or not, this game is made for the wider audience. It's not for us.
2. Therefore, it doesn't matter much to UBI at this point whether we buy it.
3. Either way, the best -the only- way to prevent increasingly strict and invasive anti-piracy measures (not to mention more and more games for the consoles and less to none for the PC) is to stop pirating games. I honestly don't understand what part of that is so hard for people to get.

Wow. If that's not skating close to the line, I don't know what is.

A small problem with that approach:
Ubi still gets your money, which is ultimately all they care about. The only way to affect their decisions is via their wallet. Meanwhile pirates and some legitimate customers will happily download the crack and live DRM-free. Kind of beats the purpose of DRM in the first place...

Haha, even I don't agree with this tactic and you know what I think about SH5.

If someone wants the game they should buy it. Period. They don't have to hold off on that just to make a tactical statement to insure blowback on Ubi.

The game will do that for itself, prove itself or not, when it comes out, for good or ill.

Yeah, but the trouble with that is that sales of SH5 will be like a handful of sand, compared to a huge dumper truck full of sand for AC2. There's also nothing to compare the sales against for SH5, but there is for AC2 - consoles. All the suits will see for SH5 is SH2 sold reall well, SH3 sold well, SH4 didn't sell well, SH5 didn't sell well either... interest in the genre is dead. They won't see DRM or bugs as a factor. I'm not buying AC2, as that's where the damage to Ubi's wallet will be the most extreme and there's no way I'm losing my progress if the net dies. In fact, I may even not buy two or there copies, just to teach them a lesson.

Most people who are going to buy the game won't have been ever been to these forums.

@ Uber Gruber : Only a handful of possible SH5 buyers are currently aware of the problems that DRM is going to create. A majority of players will certainly buy this game on impulse, cause the pictures on the game's cover look fine, without even knowing what is a U-Boot, in fact. :hmm2:
Ubi would give in to boycott pressure if it was general, I mean, if and only if every possible buyer refrains from purchasing the game until it gets a patch disabling DRM.

And as even those who know what DRM is can't come to an agreement on what to do following SH5's release, I don't think a solution to this problem will be found.

I find it quite offending to propose people to boycott the game and nearly say that thos that are gona buy the game are "quislings".

I will buy it, I will play it, and i will enjoy it.

I dont care if there is a DRM and if i need to stay online to play the game. I see it as just another online game i play even if its a single player game.
Ive been a fan of the game serie since the first game came and this wont hold me back.
In fact i really look forward to a new episode of SH.

Not a big fan of the DRM, but I like sub sims more, so I'll be buying it as soon as it comes out.

This kinda posts makes me wanna buy just to piss people off, and my computer can't even run it.

I'll decide for myself thank you very much.

Mud

This is how I feel.

Why should the community feel some sort of obsessive loyalty to a franchise which:
1. We pay for in the first place.
2. May no longer meet our desires/expectations.
3. Doesn't care about what this community thinks.

If Subsim is an indication of people stance on the DRM issue, I think SH5 sales will suffer.

No need to incite people not to buy them. As a consumer you vote with your wallet and half of the potential customers turning away is a huge fiasco for any company. HEck, even one third would be a big blow to Ubi's ego.

Let the sales figures speak for themselves.

Me? I won't buy until a proper, "official" patch is out removing DRM. This might mean never. I don't care. SH3 with the community mods is good enough for me.