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TH0R 02-23-10 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681 (Post 1278093)
I dont want to sound like the old one here. But u-47 was a VIIA...

Not true: http://www.uboat.net/boats/u47.htm

Though, if you look here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=149950&page=2

some VIIB's had VIIA tower, or so it seems...


But it is easy to confuse them as in early days they didn't have spray defectors fitted on their conning towers.

Florent 02-23-10 02:30 PM

In the books and Wikipedia U47 is an early VII b it doesn't have also a stern torpedo with bulge typial of VIIa.

Rhodes 02-23-10 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Florent (Post 1278127)
In the books and Wikipedia U47 is an early VII b it doesn't have also a stern torpedo with bulge typial of VIIa.

What Books? And wikipedia?

Type VIIB U45-55, 4 bow tubes; 1 stern tube!
The type seven B main diferences from the type seven, that after B was denominated A, was the internal stern tube, diffrent conning tower shape; the flak gun being in the tower, and the improved range, fuel capacity, etc; that I can not remember at this time.

TH0R 02-23-10 05:29 PM

I do believe that is what Florent said Rhodes. :)

Florent 02-23-10 05:29 PM

Wikipedia : unterseeboot type VII
I have an Orbis publishing of the 1984-86 Weapons Encyclopedia about Axis Submarine. And an Heimdal book about submarine, in both U47 is a type b or early type b.
On propaganda films on youtube about U47, when you can look at the stern, there is no indication of a type A stern (a bulge). Only VIIa had this bulge.

Herr Minger 02-23-10 07:02 PM

Sorry to argue with you Oscar19681 but Priens U-47 was a type VIIB. Check on u boat.net. Grrrr I've done it again, sorry folks but I make the mistake of not reading the rest of the thread.

oscar19681 02-23-10 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 1277903)
Neal has a copy. Maybe we could prevail upon him to post screenshots of the different in-game models so we can compare them.

Seems in NEAL,s "Farewell, old friend"" video it is already shown that the VIIB u-boat seen though the scope does seem to have the wrong conning tower. Unless ofcourse its a VIIC with a wire cutter. But i doubt it and i think this is the way the VIIB is modeled in sh-5 . At least in the preview version it is. Lets hope they fixed this for the final version or in an upcomming patch. Otherwise offer us a VIIB in the game if it looks exaclty like the VIIC model but only with a wire-cutter.

quad5 02-24-10 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH0R (Post 1278116)
some VIIB's had VIIA tower, or so it seems...

But it is easy to confuse them as in early days they didn't have spray defectors fitted on their conning towers.

+100000!!!:yep:

quad5 02-24-10 12:34 AM

I cannot understand why UBI commit such errors in the presence of a considerable quantity of archival documents, photos and drawings? It is simply silly!

Where VIIB tower??? Why VIIC tower does not correspond to the original??? Why???!!!

flakmonkey 02-24-10 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681 (Post 1278106)
In that case why not have an m1a1 turret with a 120mm smootbore gun , laser range finder and ballistic computer insted of the historical deck gun in sh-5. That would look so much cooler!:haha:

Grrrrr!

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6189/turretshot.jpg

Florent 02-24-10 02:58 AM

Anyway we will see at release, look at early screenshots in August, there were the correct late VIIb tower.
A recent screenshot showed an update screen depicting the tower and written as " at start of the war " thus that we get. The better is to see next week rather than speculate.

Rhodes 02-24-10 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH0R (Post 1278439)
I do believe that is what Florent said Rhodes. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florent (Post 1278440)
Wikipedia : unterseeboot type VII
I have an Orbis publishing of the 1984-86 Weapons Encyclopedia about Axis Submarine. And an Heimdal book about submarine, in both U47 is a type b or early type b.
On propaganda films on youtube about U47, when you can look at the stern, there is no indication of a type A stern (a bulge). Only VIIa had this bulge.

Yes, I missunderstud. I was lost in translation. Sorry!

oscar19681 02-24-10 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florent (Post 1278870)
Anyway we will see at release, look at early screenshots in August, there were the correct late VIIb tower.
A recent screenshot showed an update screen depicting the tower and written as " at start of the war " thus that we get. The better is to see next week rather than speculate.

linky please?

oscar19681 02-24-10 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by flakmonkey (Post 1278867)

http://whatitslikeontheinside.com/up...-So-776665.jpg

fw66 02-24-10 07:41 AM

I heard that you can upgrade to the m1a1 turret if your captain has gained level 14 deck gun skill and you've defeated the Kraken Boss on level 34.

You do of course need to have earned the torpedoes of doom loot from the Davy Jones' Locker level - it's the only way to knock off all those hit points.


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