FWIW I don't think Letum meant this thread as some sort of dig at the US. Aramike commented that the US is more right-wing than Europe, in a thread which asked why the American members of GT are right-wing. Letum's thread seems quite relevant to me. He's not saying what is good or bad he's just finding out where people place themselves politically. No need to get all pr!ckly about it. I'd be flattered if a US poster made the same thread about the UK...

It might ruin the survey. Maybe its a single-blind experiment. :DL

Why I started the poll?

I thought that was self explanatory; to see if there was any truth in
some of the claims and counter claims in the other topic (LINK).

I certainly didn't start it to make a point of anything.
It should be taken at face value.

When I did that one test it said I was more left-liberal then Gandhi. The other test aimed at Americans said that I was something called a "neo-liberal". Now I've heard of neo-conservatives but what's a neo-liberal? :)

Actually, I think there was an explanation but I don't think it's fully accurate. The thing is, I live in a country where church and state are more or less one, there is mandatory military service/civilian service/you go to prison - thing for all healthy men. This kind of sets us apart from, say, Americans.

the way I see myself politically? - Center Right, Not American.

HunterICX

I think I should reiterate that my original post in the other thread reflected my perceptions of how I saw American Subsimmers. There could be all sorts of errors in how I perceived things, or why those perceived things came to the fore in the first place.

Anyway, it looks like I sparked discussion!! Go, me!!! :rock:

Left/Not American

Though some would consider me to be a right-winger in Europe...

I stand for the right to bear arms, the right to abstain from war (except combat sims!!), the freedom of speech, being free from religious or ideological indoctrination; I'm anti-authoritarian, though pro welfare systems and contra the free market (that's not the freedom I'm free in). I'd vote in favor of traditions like good manners and gentlemanship, but my patriotism ends at my own fence.

I'm not anti-European, but I'm against the European Union and the Lisbon Treaty because I see no benefit in it except the profit of the global players. A propos - call me a nationalist, but I'm against economic globalization. Vienna had a tradition of cafés... I don't want to see it vanish under McCafés and Starbucks looking all the same wherever you are, be it in the harbour of Scapa Flow or in La Spezia ;)

Mind your own business, I guess William S. Burroughs brought it to that point.

EDIT: Typo

Billy Connolly: "Don't vote, it only encourages the bas*ards."

I'm highly offended by all those who voted "Not American".

Why, it's just...just...UnAmerican!!!:rotfl2:

Sorry guys - couldn't resist.

Glad to meet ya Highly Offended. My name is Dave. :smug:

Hmmm...I'm an odd bit on political views. Here are some things I'm for:

legalization of drugs, prostitution, etc.

guns!! guns!! guns!!!

population reduction (a LOT of people who have no business breeding breed like RATS)

recognition of religion as an obstacle to civilization/clear thought, and its hopeful elimination

the elimination of dynastic wealth/power

animal rights

Well, there's more, but that's all I feel like writing about, right now.

Hilarious.



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I agree with you, Torvald von, on legalization of drugs, guns, animal rights and the elimination of dynastic wealth/power. Though - the latter of which I agree on, the elimination of dynastic wealth/power is something I don't believe will ever happen.
Even without a degree in social theories one can be sure that as soon as one dynasty or elite is thrown from its throne, the next one will follow, good or bad that is. That's how I see it. All your points I can agree on perfectly fit the "mind your own business" way of life...

As for religion... well... I wouldn't care if my neighbour worshipped Satan, Jehovah (don't stone me please!) or the Spaghetti Monster - as soon as he accepts to the same degree that I worship submarines, erm, nothing.

And the population reduction idea... well... I don't care. Though it's fascinating and a bit unsettling how many white trash youths you can see pushing their offspring through Viennese streets in strollers...

Well, 10/20, 50% of Americans that voted describe themselves as on the right.

1/14, 7% of Europeans that voted described them as Right.



Torvald Von Mansee asked "Why do American SubSimmers more often
than not....seem to be right of center, even far right of center,
politically?"

The poll would suggest that there isn't a significant majority of
Americans on the right; just more than there are Europeans on the right.
Those who questioned the premise of the linked thread have a good point.

We need to flourish this into a fully fledged religion.

And so the Submarine cast its torpedoes into the waters of the universe and brought forth existence from the convoy of creation.