Skybird: I must've misread your point then. A lot of that going around here... :doh:

yep, like they do with a dog with rabies....

*edit, well I guess I put that accrost the rong way...*

Nothing wrong with rabbit dogs :hmmm:


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It may be like that or not, but you will be subjugated to the law, even with violence if needed, if you put ypurself above valid laws of the society you life in. Lynching justice is arbitrarily, subjective, and no state on earth can tolerate people ignoring the state's monopole on executive power without willing to fall apart in anarchy. If you will lynching justice, you become a criminal yourself, having commited a capital crime equalling murder. So see a crime against your loved ones like you want, but still you must obey the laws. You can help in changing the laws, trying to change them, but the currently valid laws you must obey.

And if you kill that guy who abused your kid, you will get life, or even a free ride on a hot chair.

I know damn well how hard this is to swallow. Long time ago, the girl I planned a life with got killed by a drunken ghost driver, I told the story before. HaveI forgiven the man? No. Do i wish him death? No. He did not do it intentionally, but carelessly at best, because he drank too much. But I am far more angry about a law system saying that being under alcoholic influence eases the responsibility you have to accept for your deeds, that you are not responsible for the ammount you drink, and most angry i am about the judge who even saw special reasons for giving a mild sentence only, which was absurd. He should have served prison time of several years, because he took a life carelessly, though not intentionally, and his driving license should have been suspended for very long time after prison. But, so said the court, that would have threatened his future perspectives and job interests. That judge must not fear that I would want to kill him. But I would love to have a 1on1 meeting with him and beating him up pretty badly, hoping that this would help him to come back to his senses again. Consider it a remedy to my aroused emotions. ;)

And before that, in the early 70s when I was still a small kid, my mom lost her sister to a drunken cardriver, too. the whole family was wiped out back then, her sister being pregnant, and freshly married. the husband got killed, too.

In both cases there was a low financial penalty, a suspended (!) prison penalty, and the driving license handed back to the drivers in less than 12 months.

Don't tell me about justice and laws not being in congruence!

Would I assist in changing laws as referred to above? Yes. Could I claim the right to kill the judge or the car driver because I put my own thoughts above the law? No, such a law is not existing.

Could I do it nevertheless? Yes - but only at the price of putting myself into conflict with the law and getting punished myself. You may call that your freedom. But it only makes you an outlaw, a lawless, and an enemy of the social order. You can claim that freedom of action, yes you certainly can - but only for this very price and all the consequences.

Not those kind, ment to say a dog with rabies... must have mispelled something...:damn:

Let there be war. If I die then I die a free man.

This doesn't concern me. That is there problem not mine.

I know this. I accept the consequence of my actions. I'm not afraid of death sky. I've died twice already in my life sky. Once being very sick when young and other a heart attack few years ago.. my wife died 3 times in the hospital for various other issue in her life time. We laugh at death. Anyhow life is too short. We make the best of it.

Helping change the law? Ya the people here tried that. I even join the new party to help get it started. Working my way up. I've learned a few things in politics.
Laws here make it difficult for new parties to be created and have access to parliament. Takes time. Unfortunately corruptions sets in because of governments devious system.. They want to keep it as is. In the end government destroyed the new party with there influence. It takes time buying people off, using media to destroy the parties true purpose.. list goes on. There not stupid and make sure we the people can't ever ruin there comfort zone.

I was young when I gave it my shot. When I saw the things going sour I knew it was over.

Obey? Not going to happen ever. I do what I feel is right not what someone else says is right. I don't go murdering or hurting or whatever. I just mind my own business. I take care of the people I love and care for.
If I am the enemy of the state? Fine by me. If they choose to waste resources in killing me.. ok.. I won't stand idle either.

Anyhow skybird you can try to justify your views all you want. You will not change me. You made your choice and I made mine. That is that. If death is there only means of fear? I've been dead and done that. :har:

The state failed from the start
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/09082...s_crime_kidnap

Sky the only way the people will ever have real justice is from chaos. aka Anarchy..

Links to Sex Crimes to Follow Texas Suspects
Sounds good to me.