I think I already said that:)

Anyways..just because the majority of the networks push the same agenda does not make it correct to push so hard the other way.

IMO there's not a single news network worth a crap in America.

News is not about reporting the truth any more .Its about slanting the truth in your direction!

I was agreeing with you.

I'm not so sure about that. However flawed, Fox reporting is the only dissenting voice among them. Without it there is nothing to keep the others even remotely honest. Perception becomes reality.

Here also we can agree.

40% approval rating.... I'm just sayin... :cool:

Sort of.

The way I see it, Fox is clearly on the right, and (MS)NBC is clearly on the left. Fox does a lot better job of it than MSNBC.

CNN used to be on the left, but now they're just stupid. They're not really even biased, they're just cr*p. CBS is irrelevant in the news world aside from half an hour every night.

In terms of news broadcasts, PBS is actually pretty unbiased. They provide real news, not infotainment like the 24 Hour networks. There's a reason Lehrer gets the first Presidential debate every year. When you get away from the news and into stuff like Frontline, then PBS shows some bias, but in terms of quality Frontline is still miles ahead of anything on the 24 Hour networks.

But the best news networks these days are beyond our borders. CNN International is still very good (which is shocking, considering how awful the regular CNN has become), and the BBC is still the gold standard.

Just out of interest; where do you place the BBC August?

And WSJ, NPR, Slate, and Economist? I need to update my score card.

I'm not August...............

The BBC was founded by, and is operating under, a Royal Charter granted by the British monarch.

What do you think?


It is funded yearly by a television licence fee. This is charged to all United Kingdom households owning a television capable of receiving broadcasts.

Too funny. Advertisers get a free ride.

BBC : Best Broadcasted Crap

ABC : Always broadcasted Crap

NBC : Nothing But Crap

CBS : Continues Broadcasting Sh!t

TBS : Total Broadcasted Sh!t

FOX : Full Of Xcretement

They all act like Garden Supply stores. Always trying to sell you a load of Crap. :yep:

Pretty sure here on the farm we actually sold a load of crap to somebody once; to spread on his garden or something. :rotfl:

Yeah, BBC radio and TV is plagued with adverts.

What made you think I thought you where?

Have you ever watched the BBC?

The BBC (and the Australian ABC and SBS and others like them) prove that there is a MASSIVE difference between state-controlled media and state-funded media.

Technically, the BBC is neither state-controlled media or state-funded.
The government doesn't give the BBC money, it just ensured that the BBC can
collect it's own through the license fee.

Difficult to judge because liberal and conservative, right and left, can mean different things overseas than they do here. Having said that though I do read their news feed a lot more than either MSNBC or Fox.

Good crap can be hard to get!