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GoldenRivet 07-12-09 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1132914)
Those are the definitions used in the USA, though most people assume assault is physically hurting that person. All of the EU as far as I understand have the same definition.

-S

you are correct... however - on a global scale, the definition of various crimes may vary slightly.

Biggles 07-12-09 12:34 PM
Yes for this thread is really constructive...what is the purpose of this thread again? I cannot see a clear starting point at the first post, from which we can discuss anything of importance/relevance to anything.

SUBMAN1 07-12-09 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggles (Post 1132920)
Yes for this thread is really constructive...what is the purpose of this thread again? I cannot see a clear starting point at the first post, from which we can discuss anything of importance/relevans to anything.
Using that definition, we can see Biggles classifies any thread on Subsim to be irrelevant.

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Biggles 07-12-09 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1132921)
Using that definition, we can see Biggles classifies any thread on Subsim to be irrelevant.

-S
No. More often than not the poster tries to prove a point while inviting people to discuss it. I see nothing here but a random statement and then little progress to clear up the questions that arises.

CastleBravo 07-12-09 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1132915)
You're asking other people to disprove your empty statements? How about you prove the US isn't the most violent western industrialised nation.
It is impossible to prove a negative. Just saying. Perhaps it would be easier to prove the premise wrong.

SUBMAN1 07-12-09 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggles (Post 1132923)
No. More often than not the poster tries to prove a point while inviting people to discuss it. I see nothing here but a random statement and then little progress to clear up the questions that arises.
For the first page maybe. I am not trying to prove a point either. I made a statement, but that has little to do with the what the post is about - violent crime in the western world. Read the title again. Am I not allowed to throw out a comment about it? Sheesshhh. The post Nazi is back.

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OneToughHerring 07-12-09 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1132917)
Join the discussion about it instead of making misleading accusations. Its called - being constructive.

-S
That's something you're not doing.

SUBMAN1 07-12-09 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1132929)
That's something you're not doing.
What? By trying to get it back on track? You my friend are trying to derail it.

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Biggles 07-12-09 12:45 PM
You still haven't answered my question back on post #26:

You are 100% sure this would be the reason? Would you please give us proof/information that supports your view in this matter?

Should I expect an answer or should I forget it?

Schroeder 07-12-09 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1132904)
So, who is the first to disprove this? Let me guess, NONE OF YOU CAN! :D
Let's see. Your embassy over here says that the current violent crime rate in the US is 20 crimes per 1000 citizens.: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm

The police in the UK registered 1,158,957 violent crimes in 2007 . http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/por...lent_crime.pdf
1,158,957 divided by 60,578,000 people equals in a rate of: 0.0191316 cases per citizen or 19.1316 cases per 1000 citizens.

As the European police report indicates the UK numbers are outstandingly high in western Europe. In countries like Germany with strict weapon restrictions the crime rate is much lower. We have only 217,923 crimes for ca. 82,000,000 people equalling in a crime rate of 2,6 violent crimes per 1000 people.

SUBMAN1 07-12-09 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggles (Post 1132931)
You still haven't answered my question back on post #26:

You are 100% sure this would be the reason? Would you please give us proof/information that supports your view in this matter?

Should I expect an answer or should I forget it?
I made a suggestion. Maybe you should study it? Post Nazi.

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Biggles 07-12-09 12:47 PM
Maybe you should stop calling people for Post Nazis and give a proper answer? Never mind, I don't care anymore...

SUBMAN1 07-12-09 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1132933)
Let's see. Your embassy over here says that the current violent crime rate in the US is 20 crimes per 1000 citizens.: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm

The police in the UK registered 1,158,957 violent crimes in 2007 . http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/por...lent_crime.pdf
1,158,957 divided by 60,578,000 people equals in a rate of: 0.0191316 cases per citizen or 19.1316 cases per 1000 citizens.

As the European police report indicates the UK numbers are outstandingly high in western Europe. In countries like Germany with strict weapon restrictions the crime rate is much lower. We have only 217,923 crimes for ca. 82,000,000 people equalling in a crime rate of 2,6 violent crimes per 1000 people.

Firearms are allowed in Germany. Not even cops can take their firearms home in the UK. BTW, where is Germany on this list?

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SUBMAN1 07-12-09 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggles (Post 1132936)
Maybe you should stop calling people for Post Nazis and give a proper answer? Never mind, I don't care anymore...
Thats good, because I lost interest in your posts a long time ago when you forbid me from making comments in my posts.

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OneToughHerring 07-12-09 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1132934)
I made a suggestion. Maybe you should study it? Post Nazi.

-S
What's next Subman1?

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