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Stealth Hunter 06-11-09 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1116045)
If you cannot cleary see the double standards of the 'popular' media then I dont know what to say.

That wasn't an answer to my question, Steam.

GoldenRivet 06-11-09 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike (Post 1116043)
So 17 year olds having sex is a sign of bad parenting? Or, teenagers making bad decisions is a sign of bad parenting?


my parents were great.

i said no to drugs, i never got drunk and never got into trouble with the law.

i did my homework (usually) and turned out to be a pretty decent guy.

but i screwed my brains out when i was 17 years old. :rock:

teens fu*king is normal.

ask any generation, they will tell you.

teenagers have been sneaking off and screwing since the dawn of the first erection.

AVGWarhawk 06-11-09 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1116061)
my parents were great.

i said no to drugs, i never got drunk and never got into trouble with the law.

i did my homework (usually) and turned out to be a pretty decent guy.

but i screwed my brains out when i was 17 years old. :rock:

teens fu*king is normal.

ask any generation, they will tell you.

teenagers have been sneaking off and screwing since the dawn of the first erection.


Yeah, I was getting a bone of my own around that age. :03: I played it safe though. :D

SteamWake 06-11-09 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter (Post 1116053)
That wasn't an answer to my question, Steam.

Well as others have said .. for example if Limbaugh described Michelle Obama or there children in such a manner calls for his immediate censure and firing would be loud and prominent.

Wolfehunter 06-11-09 04:33 PM

I don't understand? You preach about right of expression. Yet when someone does it you tell him to shut up?

The right of express can be good and bad for anyone. Either allow people to express there opinions or remove the right for people to talk.

Why is this an issue? Free speech is free speech. You don't like it don't listen to it.

Simple. :nope:

CastleBravo 06-11-09 07:05 PM

This is the latest from the Letterman camp..................

saying that the joke was aimed at 18-year-old Bristol Palin, not Willow: “We were, as we often do, making jokes about people in the news and we made some jokes about Sarah Palin and her daughter [Bristol]... and now they’re upset with me…” Letterman said.

But Bristol wasn't with the governoron here trip to NYC to help autistic children, her 14 yo daughter Willow was along and was at the Yankee's game. So it was just a gratuitous slam for which Letterman will forever be known. What is his child up to now?

I'll say it Letterman is a POS for this behavior.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/200...letterman.html

Torplexed 06-11-09 07:44 PM

One of the things I admired about Johnny Carson was that he had the class and the grace to leave his show while he was in top form. Probably too difficult a proposition for Letterman who may have been fresh and edgy when he started in the early eighties, but I think his routine has descended into tired shtick. The election was nine long months ago and he's still going after the losing side's VP candidate? Time for him to hand the reins over before he embarrasses himself further. The show has become flat and uninspired and he's pretty much just going through the motions anyway.

August 06-11-09 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter (Post 1116091)
The right of express can be good and bad for anyone. Either allow people to express there opinions or remove the right for people to talk.

Well that's a stupid idea.

Nobody is saying he couldn't say what he said. Don't you think people have the right to express their opinions about your opinion?

Aramike 06-11-09 11:53 PM

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Besides portraying yourself as a champion of conservative 'family values' and then have a pregnant teenage daughter is just too much irony for most comedians to pass up.
SERIOUSLY?

Are you implying that one cannot hold values that sometimes are compromised due to the actions of a TEENAGER?

Aramike 06-11-09 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1116194)
Well that's a stupid idea.

Nobody is saying he couldn't say what he said. Don't you think people have the right to express their opinions about your opinion?

Heh, you said exactly what I was thinking...

I find it ironic that the left's so-called "champions" of free speech always complain about others exercising their free speech rights to tell them that they should shut up.

TDK1044 06-12-09 05:34 AM

Any politician or celebrity is fair game. Their families are not. I wonder how Mr Letterman would react to criticism of his young son for being the offspring of a wrinkled old fart who may be dead by the time the kid gets to College?

Carotio 06-12-09 05:46 AM

I don't know if this is a cultural difference, but I found it quite funny.
The Letterman show is broadcasted in a Danish tv-channel as well a week or two after it's US broadcast, and I do watch it from time to time. And I think he is quite funny. :yeah:
The show with Jay Leno was on air at some time too, but never caught the great audience here. He's just too boring...:down:

Should Letterman make fun with Palin's daughter? Well, sure... I think he and everybody else should make fun of anybody and anything. :yep:
Does anyone remember the Mohammed cartoon story from 2007? 12 Danish cartoonists made some sketches of Mohammed for a Danish newspaper, because an author was threatened not to bring images of the holy prophet. :nope:
Up theirs... Bring it on. Jokes about anything and anybody should be made, and as long as they are meant as jokes, I really can't see the harm...:shifty:

danurve 06-12-09 08:24 AM

Letterman Blows.
He doesn't talk to his audience, he talks to that over-rated musician puppet of his. He's just looking for ratings to sell advertising space.
The entire world would be a better place if people would stop kissing hollywood @ss.

AVGWarhawk 06-12-09 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Carotio (Post 1116264)
I don't know if this is a cultural difference, but I found it quite funny.
The Letterman show is broadcasted in a Danish tv-channel as well a week or two after it's US broadcast, and I do watch it from time to time. And I think he is quite funny. :yeah:
The show with Jay Leno was on air at some time too, but never caught the great audience here. He's just too boring...:down:

Should Letterman make fun with Palin's daughter? Well, sure... I think he and everybody else should make fun of anybody and anything. :yep:
Does anyone remember the Mohammed cartoon story from 2007? 12 Danish cartoonists made some sketches of Mohammed for a Danish newspaper, because an author was threatened not to bring images of the holy prophet. :nope:
Up theirs... Bring it on. Jokes about anything and anybody should be made, and as long as they are meant as jokes, I really can't see the harm...:shifty:

No, joking about a 14 year old and getting knocked up by a professional baseball player boarders on retarded and not really funny in my book. Although Letterman claims it was about Bristol Palin (age 18), Bristol was not in NY and certainly not attending a Yankees baseball game. The 14 year old Willow was. What Letteman does is lean very left and anyone on the right apparently is fair game inclusive of 14 year old girls enjoying a baseball game and underaged sex with an adult. That right there should raise an eyebrow. Really, it was an unecessary joke.

Platapus 06-12-09 09:21 AM

While I disagree with what Letterman did (I personally find the joke inappropriate), I would like to bring up an opposing viewpoint.

No where it is written that everyone must find every joke funny at all times.

For any joke told there will be people reacting differently. Comedy is, by its very nature, cruel. It is difficult to find any joke that absolutely inoffensive to everyone in all cultures at all times.

So, if Ms Palin finds the joke inappropriate, that's great. She is entitled to her opinion just as I am. However, neither Ms Palin nor myself have the authority to determine what "is funny" and what is "not funny" with respect to other people.

The instance of one person, or even a large group of people finding a specific joke "not funny" should not influence whether the joke is indeed funny (a very subjective concept) or "acceptable"

All that I can reasonably say is that this joke was unacceptable to ME. For every person who found Letterman's joke unacceptable, there are others who found it completely acceptable.

Who should have authority over Letterman on what jokes he chooses to tell on his TV show? Not I. Not Ms Palin. I suppose the sponsors do as they control the funding. But certanily not the public.

The public has the right to consider any joke unacceptable.
The public has the right to stop watching the performer/buying the sponsor's products
The public has the right to voice their opinion on the unacceptability of the joke

However, the public does not have the right to mandate what is and what is not funny.


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