[QUOTE=jazzabilly
Yep. And they made the same claims that the NAZIs who were about to swing on the end of a rope at Nuremburg - cries of "victor's justice!"[/QUOTE]

Treason is often a crime invented by the victors as an excuse to hang the losers - Bennie Franklin

Treason's different. Crimes against humanity are as bad, if not worse.

So what you are saying is that the NAZIs should have been excused, then.

Made the hair crawl on the back of my neck. We lost the war of northern aggression, thus to the victors go the spoils............I'm a confederate re-enactor.

Of course, in the American Civil War you didn't have to fire torpedoes. You waited for the enemy to come to them. :cool:

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoun...te-torpedo.jpg

Pre 43?

Use your deck gun! Use your AA guns! RAM THEM!

Just don't expect anything from a Mk 14.

Hey the mk 14s on my first patrol were all spot on, only had 2 duds out of the 16 or so I fired. My last contact was the only engagement that my torps dudded on me.

Gott in Himmel, I've just had more duds on one mission than in the rest of 2 careers.
Oct '43 Type IX, out of Surubaya, prowling South of the Cocos Islands.
TI seemed the most reliable with almost 50% going off.
TII were a waste of time, I don't think any detonated, not taking any of these again.
TIII 2 went off, 1 missed, 2 were duds and 1 disappeared...
My radar isn't worth switching on, it didn't pick up anything for the entire patrol, though my radar detector works, lit up like a christmas tree when I passed an Akizuki...:ping: When did the Japs get Radar?

Type 21 anti-air, surface detection radar started to be fitted in Japanese destroyers in March 1943.

Strange, they don't seem to react to me (playing USN) getting close to them in late '43 - early '44. I (usually) go to radar depth under 12,000 yards range, and periscope at about 4,000, though I've been within 8,000 yards of a destroyer on the surface without reaction...

Had an absolute shocker in TMO/RSRD last night. Out of Manila in a Salmon class, all Mk 14s. Took precautions like set all to slow, contact and magnetic detonators.

Clear weather, no swell. Contacted a huge task force, got inside and unloaded......
"torpedo was a dud sir" ad infinitum. Every single torp ran deep, failed to detonate and one even turned tail and ran in circles.

Guess which torpedo detonator DIDN'T malfuction.:nope:

"MEDIIIC! We have heavy flooding sir! We have critical flooding sir!" blub blub blub

Okay-I can take a hint. How about I try playing as a Fascist for a change?
This little Type II looks pretty cool. Oh looky, a little freighter tootling along at slow speed right in front of me? 500 meters out, "Los ein!"
"Torpedo was a dud sir"
WTF? "Los zwei! Los drei!"

Can you guess the result?

Gott in Himmel! "Suface the boat, man the flak guns!" Take THAT! Emptied the magazines while waiting for the tubes to load. Okay, take your time, slow speed, set the depth carefully and....Take that! DUD DUD

RAMMING SPEED! Got banged up pretty good and with nothing left to throw at it, headed for home at 512 compression........and was promptly sunk by aircarft.

Hmmm......Time for a little "Med. Total War: For King or Country" And lo, many happy hours were spent butchering Thomas Fairfax and purging London of all rebels. Ransom for Cromwell? BAH! Hand him over to Tillier's Irish Brigade for summary execution! I guess I'm better suited to leading men in Swedish school cavalry charges....