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SUBMAN1 01-01-09 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggles
Well, I don't really see a problem with the US having some competiton out there in the big world...as long as it won't end with nukes, but as you say, that ain't gonna happen...

Are you sure? Lots of tension these days. More so than I ever noticed during the cold war.

-S

Biggles 01-01-09 03:52 PM

It all comes down to the basic rule: Waiting until the other one makes the first move. No matter how crazy you are, unless you are a James Bond villain, you don't want a nuclear war, thus noone will take that last fatal step. You wait untl your enemy takes the first step instead. That's how it worked during the cold war, hopefully it will work in the future too.

Dowly 01-01-09 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by Biggles
Well, I don't really see a problem with the US having some competiton out there in the big world...as long as it won't end with nukes, but as you say, that ain't gonna happen...

Are you sure? Lots of tension these days. More so than I ever noticed during the cold war.

-S

And tons of paranoia too. ;)

SUBMAN1 01-01-09 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly
And tons of paranoia too. ;)

With good reason. The rhetoric has reached levels far beyond anything seen during the cold war.

-S

XabbaRus 01-01-09 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL
You bunch a girls. Oh ! lets not offend the Brits !

Hell ! They can't even build a proper loo and they know it.

They need to fight their corupt over self serveing politicians like the rest of us and take their country back.

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Uh, hello? Like to expand on that?

Merchant Raider 01-01-09 05:56 PM

Glad to see that the STRAITSTIMES Newspaper is the bible of world quotes ?,were is it from anyway.:hmm:

Oberon 01-01-09 06:11 PM

Pft, people have been forecasting the downfall of Europe since the Middle Ages and probably before that. :dead:
It'll survive, it's survived countless wars, changes of power, tyrants, dictators and foreign invasions.

Merchant Raider 01-01-09 06:14 PM

Well said :up:

SUBMAN1 01-01-09 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon
Pft, people have been forecasting the downfall of Europe since the Middle Ages and probably before that. :dead:
It'll survive, it's survived countless wars, changes of power, tyrants, dictators and foreign invasions.

I'd agree with you if you had a military to fight with, which is the difference between now and then. You have almost none.

But this downfall will not be of military origin in the beginning. It will be economic. Something the world has not had to face until the last 100 years.

-S

Bewolf 01-02-09 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Pft, people have been forecasting the downfall of Europe since the Middle Ages and probably before that. :dead:
It'll survive, it's survived countless wars, changes of power, tyrants, dictators and foreign invasions.

I'd agree with you if you had a military to fight with, which is the difference between now and then. You have almost none.

But this downfall will not be of military origin in the beginning. It will be economic. Something the world has not had to face until the last 100 years.

-S

:rotfl:

Now seriously, I do not have to post all the sources and graphs again showing europe's defense budget and military capabilities compared to other nations, particulary Russia and China? :roll:

Takeda Shingen 01-02-09 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL
They need to fight their corupt over self serveing politicians like the rest of us and take their country back.

Well, we'd need to get rid of our corrupt and self-serving politicians first.

Jimbuna 01-02-09 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL
You bunch a girls. Oh ! lets not offend the Brits !

Hell ! They can't even build a proper loo and they know it.

They need to fight their corupt over self serveing politicians like the rest of us and take their country back.

Worked just fine the last time I sat on it....better than I did anyway http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7...ebigtb9fg3.gif

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6...ntoilethi3.gif

Tchocky 01-02-09 07:27 AM

Going to keep that image AdBlocked till the end of time, jim :dead:

Oberon 01-02-09 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Pft, people have been forecasting the downfall of Europe since the Middle Ages and probably before that. :dead:
It'll survive, it's survived countless wars, changes of power, tyrants, dictators and foreign invasions.

I'd agree with you if you had a military to fight with, which is the difference between now and then. You have almost none.

But this downfall will not be of military origin in the beginning. It will be economic. Something the world has not had to face until the last 100 years.

-S

Oh, there might well be another Dark Ages on the way, it wouldn't surprise me. But equally it might swing around.
Regarding military strength, well, it wouldn't be the first time we've been conquered. Khan had a good run at it, the Romans did too. It is the progress of history. Besides, we can rearm and rebuild if our backs are against the wall, it's just getting the right propaganda to the masses. ;)
If the US really wants to return to the old America-First style isolationism, well, that is the choice of the US, but I refer to a quote from a president I liked:


Jimbuna 01-02-09 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Going to keep that image AdBlocked till the end of time, jim :dead:

Here's one with less 'content' :lol:

http://www.freefever.com/animatedgifs/animated/men9.gif


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