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Tchocky 12-29-08 12:08 PM

Where?

SUBMAN1 12-29-08 12:29 PM

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Where?

The one sided information. But you already know this, so why the stupid response?

-S

Tchocky 12-29-08 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Where?

The one sided information. But you already know this, so why the stupid response?

-S

Try being civil.


This thread is about Israel and Palestine, not religion. Show me where the Anti-Semitism is.
You say it's implied over and over. Show me where, in what posts?

SUBMAN1 12-29-08 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Try being civil.

That's a great idea for everyone in this thread. Try being civil to Israel.


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Originally Posted by Tchocky
This thread is about Israel and Palestine, not religion. Show me where the Anti-Semitism is.
You say it's implied over and over. Show me where, in what posts?

First try knowing what the definition of what you are talking about before making comment:

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Antisemitism (alternatively spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism; also rarely known as judeophobia) is prejudice against or hostility toward Jews as a group.
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Tchocky 12-29-08 01:30 PM

Show me where the Anti-Semitism is.
You say it's implied over and over. Show me where, in what posts?

SUBMAN1 12-29-08 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Show me where the Anti-Semitism is.
You say it's implied over and over. Show me where, in what posts?

Now I think you've lost it.

How about trying to show me where the hate filled posts here that are talking about the HAMAS rocket attacks first? They are all denoucing Israel and paying sympathy to the attackers. Or did you miss my post above that tells you it is completely lacking?

I've already told you. You are simply looking for a foothold where one doesn't exists. But as I said before, Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews so this shouldn't be so shocking that it is all one sided.

-S

Mikhayl 12-29-08 01:51 PM

One thing that makes me laugh when watching the news on Palestine on French TV.
In Arabic "hamas" and "hezbollah" are pronounced much like in English, and should be pronounced in the same way in French. Yet I often hear "journalists" who speak about "rhamas" and "rhezbollah". You wonder why and you realize that this is the Hebrew pronounciation, so you easily guess where these journalists get their "info".

SUBMAN1 12-29-08 01:55 PM

Wow! Obama finally impressed me!

-S

WASHINGTON — When President-elect Barack Obama went to Israel in July — to the very town, in fact, whose repeated shelling culminated in this weekend’s new fighting in Gaza — he all but endorsed the punishing Israeli attacks now unfolding.

“If somebody was sending rockets into my house, where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that,” he told reporters in Sderot, a small city on the edge of Gaza that has been hit repeatedly by rocket fire. “And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.”

Enigma 12-29-08 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Show me where the Anti-Semitism is.
You say it's implied over and over. Show me where, in what posts?



Now I think you've lost it.

How about trying to show me where the hate filled posts here that are talking about the HAMAS rocket attacks first? They are all denoucing Israel and paying sympathy to the attackers. Or did you miss my post above that tells you it is completely lacking?

I've already told you. You are simply looking for a foothold where one doesn't exists. But as I said before, Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews so this shouldn't be so shocking that it is all one sided.
Translation: "cant".

Tchocky 12-29-08 02:03 PM

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How about trying to show me where the hate filled posts here that are talking about the HAMAS rocket attacks first? They are all denoucing Israel and paying sympathy to the attackers. Or did you miss my post above that tells you it is completely lacking?

You're missing the point completely.
Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

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I've already told you.
You really haven't. I asked you to show the alleged anti-semitism of this thread and you responded with a definition of anti-semitism.

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But as I said before, Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews so this shouldn't be so shocking that it is all one sided.
What do you mean, "Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews"?
If you're thinking about the Holocaust, try to remember that a political regime in one European country does not mean the same thing as the entire continent. I know such distinctions are very subtle and difficult to grasp, but learning the fundamentals can really pay off sometimes.

SUBMAN1 12-29-08 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
How about trying to show me where the hate filled posts here that are talking about the HAMAS rocket attacks first? They are all denoucing Israel and paying sympathy to the attackers. Or did you miss my post above that tells you it is completely lacking?

You're missing the point completely.
Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

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I've already told you.
You really haven't. I asked you to show the alleged anti-semitism of this thread and you responded with a definition of anti-semitism.

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But as I said before, Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews so this shouldn't be so shocking that it is all one sided.
What do you mean, "Europe has no problem murdering millions of Jews"?
If you're thinking about the Holocaust, try to remember that a political regime in one European country does not mean the same thing as the entire continent. I know such distinctions are very subtle and difficult to grasp, but learning the fundamentals can really pay off sometimes.

A lot of opinion, but you still haven't shown me where Israel has the right to defend itself.

And by the way, yes, Israel is the Jewish state. So don't try and spoon feed any more baloney.

Try denoucing Palestine and Hamas's actions as worse than Israels, and you might start to approach a non-biased footing.

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Tchocky 12-29-08 02:22 PM

Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

SUBMAN1 12-29-08 02:36 PM

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Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

Not all, but purely biased responses as in the thread, is anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

What you and other people in this forum are telling me is that you are so morally corrupt, that you don't understand the difference between right and wrong, the difference between a provoked and unprovoked attack. You outright denounce a people. And make no mistake, it is about the people.

Palastine is just as guilty as Hamas if they do not stop it. If they are unable, they should ask for assistance. To not stop a direct attack on another people that is based on racial attacks only and for no other reason, then Palastine deserves to be bombed back to the stone age.

Before we can continue this conversation any further, do you denounce Palastines and Hamas's unprovoked attacks as much worse than Israels response? If you do not, it is clear where your bias stands and the conversation is over.

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Tchocky 12-29-08 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

Not all, but purely biased responses as in the thread, is anti-semitism. Do you understand this?

No, I don't understand. You are not making sense. Criticism of Israel can take many forms, whereas anti-semitism is a religious prejudice, that as far as I can see has not been displayed in this thread. You say otherwise, but have a strange inability to back this statement up. Crude and offensive remarks about European anti-semitism don't make sense here unless such anti-semitism is actually being displayed.
Quote an example of anti-semitism in this thread. Even an implied example, easier as that is.

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Before we can continue this conversation any further, do you denounce Palastines and Hamas's unprovoked attacks as much worse than Israels response? If you do not, it is clear where your bias stands and the conversation is over.
This really shouldn't be this difficult. you say the thread is full of anti-semitism, yet you cannot provide a single example.
Why do I have to denounce attacks before you can back up your own statements?

Foxtrot 12-29-08 03:02 PM

Will I be an anti-semitic if I will say that Jewish Settlers (and only Jewish Settlers loved by God) deserve Hamas rockets?


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