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Aramike 12-23-08 08:37 PM

I'm an agnostic. Why? Because you really can't know for sure one way or the other.

Frankly, I find many atheists to be as religious - if not moreso - than most Christians. I mean, if you don't believe in God, that's fine ... but why let it get your panties in a tizzy because someone else does? Isn't proselytizing supposed to be a religious thing?

Mikhayl 12-23-08 08:56 PM

I'm an atheist in the sense that I don't think god exists, and if he does exist well I don't give a rat's ass, why would I. I happened to have had a look at death in the eyes once so to speak and uh, I thought about a few things and religion wasn't one of them. That's for the guys who cling to the empty "there's no atheist in foxholes" BS, I know there's a few here :)

And I don't feel upset or whatever when someone believes in something, but I do when some bigoted guy tells me that I have no morals and so on because I don't believe in his stuff. But hey, that's Subman, right :roll:

August 12-23-08 09:06 PM

I believe in God but I also believe that we as a species have no better understanding of what God is than a toddler has of the intricacies of socio-economics. I also believe that religions are flawed just like any other man made institution. They were created in an attempt to explain the unexplainable, the concept of God.

Rilder 12-23-08 09:19 PM

Gotta love december, month of religion and anti-religion. :-?

Just become Pagan like me, were better then both extremes!

Plus our stories are better.

Enigma 12-23-08 09:39 PM

If someone doesn't believe in God, it doesn't make them "anti-religion".

Stealth Hunter 12-23-08 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Your post is a mess. What I get from it is that it is baseless claims without it going into whatever. Try to break it out in your next post.

I took note of about 15-20 errors in the article you posted, including incorrect grammar and punctuation. Who wrote this article again?

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
If you took Biology in school, you know that Darwin was never able to answer many questions based around human nature.

If you took world history in high school, you know that Darwin formulated his hypothesis about evolution in the 1850s, long before psychology or even basic brain studies began. How could he answer them? Louis Pasteur hadn't even discovered bacteria yet! The questions were decades ahead of their time.

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
For one, humans should not have the capability to help out others that are of lesser fortune because this does not fit the model.

You mean the concept of survival of the fittest? That's a very common misconception that I've begun to notice lately.

Please note that Charles Darwin used the term as a metaphor in his book "On the Origin of Species", not as a scientific description as you and numerous others emphasize. Also, Dr. Herbert Spencer made it the popular saying that it is today, not Darwin.

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The article above does an excellent job explaining why. That is why you should attack it on a point by point basis.

The article does little to suggest why Atheists are "morally bankrupt".

Points? What points? There are no points to refute or attack. The whole thing is just ignorance and an opinionated speech coined as logic. This man's motive clearly was simply to promote religion and to bash Atheism with his ideas and so-called "facts". He would be better suited as a preacher, not an amateur web writer.

Letum 12-23-08 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
If you took Biology in school, you know that Darwin was never able to answer many questions based around human nature.

If you took world history in high school, you know that Darwin formulated his hypothesis about evolution in the 1850s, long before physcology or even basic brain studies began. How could he answer them? Louis Pasteur hadn't even discovered bacteria yet! The questions were decades ahead of their time.

Even if these discoveries pre-dated Darwin I doubt he would have commented all that
much on them. He didn't answer them because he didn't attempt to as 'human nature' wasn't his area of study.

Stealth Hunter 12-23-08 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum
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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
If you took Biology in school, you know that Darwin was never able to answer many questions based around human nature.

If you took world history in high school, you know that Darwin formulated his hypothesis about evolution in the 1850s, long before psychology or even basic brain studies began. How could he answer them? Louis Pasteur hadn't even discovered bacteria yet! The questions were decades ahead of their time.

Even if these discoveries pre-dated Darwin I doubt he would have commented all that
much on them. He didn't answer them because he didn't attempt to as 'human nature' wasn't his area of study.

Agreed. Still, it would have been interesting to see what he thought.

Stealth Hunter 12-23-08 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by sunvalleyslim
I'm afraid some of you have not looked death in its eyes, known sheer terror....and what it means to meet your maker......when you're staring death down, what are you going to do...........cry for your mommy?

Pfft, quicksave.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...-jesus-brb.jpg

antikristuseke 12-23-08 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sunvalleyslim
I'm afraid some of you have not looked death in its eyes, known sheer terror....and what it means to meet your maker......when you're staring death down, what are you going to do...........cry for your mommy?

I have stared down the barrel of a loaded gun in the hands of someone I had not met before, thats as close as I have come to staring death in the face, and no, the proper course of action in such a case is not to cry for mommy nor is it to pray to which ever god or gods you belive in.

Kapt Z 12-23-08 11:16 PM

HAPPY FESTIVUS!!! :p

subchaser12 12-23-08 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by August
I believe in God but I also believe that we as a species have no better understanding of what God is than a toddler has of the intricacies of socio-economics. I also believe that religions are flawed just like any other man made institution. They were created in an attempt to explain the unexplainable, the concept of God.

Holy **** August, I can't believe you just said that. I had to do a triple take to make sure I was looking at the right person.

Damn it was like in Wayne's world when Dana Carvey's character randomly spits out some rediculously complex and deep diatribe out of nowhere.

I of course agree with you.

SUBMAN1 12-23-08 11:30 PM

What a circus! :D And the best idea yet - attack the validity of the article because it had a grammatical error. I wait to see what else we come up with! :p :up:

-S

Dowly 12-23-08 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
What a circus! :D And the best idea yet - attack the validity of the article because it had a grammatical error. I wait to see what else we come up with! :p :up:

-S

Well, there really isnt anything else to point out on that article. Bad grammar and opinions.

antikristuseke 12-23-08 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
What a circus! :D And the best idea yet - attack the validity of the article because it had a grammatical error. I wait to see what else we come up with! :p :up:

-S

The critique of grammar was but one minor point in that post, did you not read the rest of it?


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